what being apart from the law means.

[Drich]

Drich, I do wish you would stop avoiding questions, and just answer me in the most obliging, concise manner possible. Telling me to do something that the bible says to do (which incidentally I've tried.

actually no you haven't, for the parable in Luke 11 does not have an end date. It's a do/doing process, there is no 'try.'

I was a christian and tried it out before deciding not to believe it) does not in any way tell me the characteristics of your god. Unless you're trying to imply that the characteristics of your god are to be found in the bible, which right there means that I can stop looking right now, since that's the answer.

Did i miss a post? when did we start talking about the Characteristics of God? At last check we were speaking about 'proof.'

The god of the bible is easily refutable,

Do you know how many of your silent peers thought the same thing? Ultimatly one has to rewrite the God of the bible in order to refute Him or simply attack and dismiss those who defend him.

and even if it does exist, it's a damn monster if the bible is to be believed, and it beggars belief that you or anyone else would ally yourself to it. It's a despicable, malevolent tyrant that threatens humanity with a punishment worse than death, and tries to bribe us to love it with one of the most ridiculous means of communicating its intentions I've ever heard of.

It all boils down to choice. The fact that you have chosen differently than I have means little to nothing to me. I am only here to give clarity and understanding to those who seek it. If you want to see God as a monster then again that is your choice. However if you want to take an honest look, then I can show you where to stand. Otherwise know in your deepest heart of hearts I do not care how you've make up your mind.
My only concern is to provide you with an oppertunity to know what God has left for you to understand.

I'm looking for your god. Asking me what I'm looking for after explaining this is, I hope you understand, a little aggravating.

Then A/S/K for Him as Luke 11 tells you to do. Don't add anything don't take anything away. Just do as God instructs and God will show up. the more faithful you are to what He has given you, the more you will see of Him. What better 'proof' of God is there than God Himself?

If the best means of communicating its features to me is "do what this bible passage says", then I'm going to have to first ask why int he world I should take the bible seriously.

See you above quoted passage note the "I'm Looking for your God" part.

We are told we are to humble ourselves to God, and He will lift you up. For you it seems humbling yourself means yeilding to the authority of the bible.