My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists

[Purple Rabbit]

This whole discussion of agnostic versus gnostic atheism is an artificial one cultivated here on AF. I doubt it would even exist if it was dubbed weak and strong atheism instead. Since no one has absolute knowledge, no not even you fr0d0, the word 'knowing' has only relative meaning. Knowing for sure is as relative to what is knowable by humans as knowing absolutely sure.

With this in mind it is perfectly possible to state that you know absolutely for sure that god does not exist. In everyday use of language this is not a comparison to the absolute but to the ultimate standard of knowing that is attainable for humans. So I think atheist can be gnostic and still subscribe to the view that human knowledge is relative. And also a theist can be agnostic and still feel more certain about it than a so called gnostic atheist. As long as there is no absolute benchmark to compare these statements with, these labels are only labels that people give themself. Since there is no absolute standard to measure human sureness by it is the context and meaning that is given by the person himself that shines some light on the absoluteness he is claiming.

So really what is your problem EvF? It is a personal label yet you seem dissatisfied with the connotation other people give it. It seems futile to me.