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Poll: Would you prefer to be an agnostic theist, or a gnostic atheist?
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My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists
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RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists
EvF we have spoken before about this. A "gnostic" is "one who knows". But the question biols down to one philosophical inquiry: What is knowledge? I KNOW that there is no God because I have observed it (have you seen the dark side of the world lately?) and also observed it's antithesis-- the notion that God exists. I have observed the "faithful" and observed their enormous lie. It is a lie. Look, there are still people who argue that the world is flat. You have evidence to the contrary, yes, but does that evidence actually constitute KNOWLEDGE? It's sort of like Newton who observed gravity and based on those observations had actual KNOWLEDGE of gravity even thou he didn't account for Einstien's later revelations that objects are not attracted to one another, but rather to the empty space in which they reside (which is curved by the mass of nearby matter, thus propelling objects with mass toward one another). He didn't have the knowledge, per se of this curvature in space, (because it was unavailable to him) Would you then argue that Newton had no knowledge of gravity? It is obvious that Newton observed the phenomen and understood it's workings and knew that gravity existed. In the same way, I know that God does NOT exist. I count this as knowledge based on observation. There might be some "curvature of space" element to the equation that I don't directly comprehend and maybe no one ever will because it is perhaps beyond the scope of comprehension or observation, but trust me-- there is no God. I know it. You know it. Even the Christians know it (in the words of Nietzshe, "Chistians SPEAK of faith but they ACT on their instincts" -paraphrased but acurate to the original statement- In chaos theory, a chaotic system ultimatley creates a system of order. The perceptable universe is the chaotic system here and knowledge is the system of order. What I'm arguing is that this system of order (knowledge) is in fact valid.
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My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by chatpilot - December 18, 2009 at 12:34 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by binny - December 18, 2009 at 12:41 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Zhalentine - December 18, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Zhalentine - December 18, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 18, 2009 at 5:07 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by fr0d0 - December 18, 2009 at 5:57 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Violet - December 19, 2009 at 7:38 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Dotard - December 19, 2009 at 8:36 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Joe Bloe - December 20, 2009 at 12:29 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 20, 2009 at 11:47 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by theVOID - December 20, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 20, 2009 at 8:23 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 6:32 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 21, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 21, 2009 at 5:26 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 10:56 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Spot on! - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by chatpilot - December 23, 2009 at 4:53 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Meatball - December 24, 2009 at 9:45 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by fr0d0 - December 24, 2009 at 10:33 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by chatpilot - December 24, 2009 at 11:13 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by fr0d0 - December 24, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by chatpilot - December 25, 2009 at 12:50 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by theVOID - December 25, 2009 at 6:21 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by chatpilot - December 25, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 29, 2009 at 11:37 am
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by Tiberius - December 29, 2009 at 8:11 pm
RE: My Fellow Specifically Agnostic Atheists - by ghostlighter - January 1, 2010 at 9:10 pm

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