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Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED
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RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED
(November 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:
(November 2, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Sorry, but that is a utopia. People form groups, and those groups advocate all sorts of ideas, that is called politics, it happens in open societies and dictatorships.

You're losing me here. I'm not sure who you're arguing with, but it doesn't seem to me.

I've previously stated that I don't have any utopian ideals. I'm not trying to create a "perfect" government. I want the one we already have to improve. Voting alone is not gonna bring about that change

When you put it that way that sounds reasonable. Voting alone wont do it, no, but getting rid of voting is bat shit insane to me.

Quote:But the problem with political parties is that they do not work in the interest of the people

This is short term thinking. You could say currently that may be the case, but that does not mean you cant make them responsive. It took unfortunately a great depression to wake the government up, but for 40 years up till Regan unwittingly started the 30 year decline, government was responsive.

I'd say Obama, while not perfect, has done some really good things. Gays certainly are enjoying more rights now more than ever, although not complete yet. Health care will be available to more people. Our deficit has been cut almost in half. The one Bush caused. I think more and more people are waking up, all be it slowly, to the scam the spin masters on the right have concocted.

Change is slow, and humans in general don't like quick sudden changes. I think your impatience is with pace, not government itself. The only way to influence government is to make the attempt.
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Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Foxaèr - November 1, 2013 at 7:00 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Foxaèr - November 1, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Sejanus - November 1, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Sejanus - November 1, 2013 at 7:23 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Ben Davis - November 1, 2013 at 7:35 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Pretzel Logic - November 1, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Ben Davis - November 1, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Nine - November 1, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Doubting Thomas - November 1, 2013 at 9:04 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by downbeatplumb - November 1, 2013 at 9:15 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Napoléon - November 1, 2013 at 9:21 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Psykhronic - November 1, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by downbeatplumb - November 1, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Ben Davis - November 4, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Psykhronic - November 1, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by FlyingNarwhal - November 1, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 1, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Foxaèr - November 1, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 2, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by FlyingNarwhal - November 2, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by FlyingNarwhal - November 1, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Cato - November 2, 2013 at 3:33 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Fruity - November 2, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 2, 2013 at 9:34 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by bladevalant546 - November 4, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by bladevalant546 - November 4, 2013 at 10:41 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 4, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 4, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by frankiej - November 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: Russell Brand and another WTF OP/ED - by Brian37 - November 4, 2013 at 8:00 pm

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