(April 8, 2014 at 9:32 pm)Sejanus Wrote:(April 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Phatt Matt s Wrote: Its just a belief
Lack of*
It is both a belief, and a lack of belief.
You believe there is no reason to believe.
Definition of belief (n)
Bing Dictionary
be·lief[ bi léef ]
acceptance of truth of something: acceptance by the mind that something is true or real, often underpinned by an emotional or spiritual sense of certainty
trust: confidence that somebody or something is good or will be effective
something that somebody believes in: a statement, principle, or doctrine that a person or group accepts as true
I merely believe in observable and conclusively verifiable evidence.
I had a theist use this one on me the other day ("thanks for sharing your beliefs in evolution!")and I had to let him know just what I believed in and why my belief in my beliefs is founded whereas theirs isn't.
I also learned from Ryan, this one when they say 'you have faith in your belief'--which, in my opinion, is when you've won the debate because let's face it: they're just trying to make your blood boil, and the second you show emotion they'll pounce on you personally-- and here's what Esqui said:
Esquilax Wrote:Faith is maintaining a belief in spite of evidence; if new evidence comes to light, science changes to reflect that.
I thought that was pretty insightful and an example of, 'honesty is the best policy.'
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.