Open challenge regarding the supernatural

[robvalue]

Following on from my arrogant ramblings in the miracle thread, I thought it would be interesting to make this its own topic.

My challenge to anyone is to make an argument that demonstrates, beyond reasonable doubt, that anything supernatural exists, or any supernatural event has ever happened. This includes such things as a "God" exisiting (assuming it's not just a labelling of something natural), a religion involving the supernatural being "true", or any other woo type stuff you like.

I'll use this definition of supernatural: anything that cannot be tested, detected or measured by natural means, regardless of whether we currently have the ability to do so. If you want to use a different definition, please make that clear. If you're arguing for a god or a religion, or some sort of woo, please define as best you can what it is you are arguing for.

Here are the rules. To accept my challenge, you have to make a positive claim/argument. In other words, you are arguing for something supernatural, not trying to prove it's not impossible. I'm not saying they are impossible. I'm also not be saying your claim, whatever it is, is false. You can argue about supernatural things in general, or about something specific you have in mind.

Please make it as succinct as possible, I don't want to read hundreds of pages. And for this reason, here is the second rule:

If I can identify any one of the following, anywhere in your argument, I win. For this reason, don't add anything more to your argument than necessary so I'm not cutting off something you later say isn't actually necessary for your argument to still be true. I'll address only this point that I find, and I'll consider your argument defeated. You're then welcome to adjust your argument and resubmit it.

Dishonest or invalid techniques:

1) Untrue or unsupported statements/assumptions
2) Logical fallacies
3) Emotional manipulation

If I can't find any of these, and you have made a compelling argument for the existence of anything supernatural or such an event ever happening, then you win. Your prize is that I'll be so stunned that I'll have to reconsider my entire belief system.

Of course, it will be a matter of opinion whether my objections are valid, and whether your argument is compelling. I leave it up to each reader to decide for themselves. You are of course welcome to discuss why you think any of my objections are invalid. But again, if I spot one of those 3 things in your rebuttal, I have defeated it.

If anyone wants to actually debate the rules I have set up, and thinks anything is unfair or should be changed, please feel free to do so.

Final rule: anyone just being a dick will be ignored.

Is this arrogant? Probably. But I think it's interesting, and I'd like to put my confidence in this to the test. Have at it! Maybe I should put this on that catholic forum? You're welcome to redirect people here to come kick my arse and shut my big mouth.