Prayer not working

[Darkstar]

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First thing you assume you know God's perfect plan and how He works it, and you do not.

Don't a lot of theists tend to tell us we have it all wrong, thus implying that they know what's going on?

We say this because it's true, duh. Those of us who stay in a serious relationship with Him have a better understanding through the Holy Spirit.

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Only if we presuppose that the holy spirit exists, If we don't then it's just hypocrisy.

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God speaks to use through the Spirit, since you do not know how that works the Spirit does not reside in you.

How can the holy spirit not reside in someone?

The Holy Spirit only resides in those who accept Christ for their savior, if you once knew Christ in this way you should not have to ask this question, should you?

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So...I think I've already explained how I once accepted Jesus but still didn't understand god.

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You must be quite dull minded to believe Christians think the Holy Spirit reside in the kidneys, mind or heart.
The Holy Spirit is a being which can move into our being and aid us in our daily lives.
Playing apparently is all you know, typically childish.

Now to answer some other questions. I find nothing wrong theologically with 1st Sam. 28:7-25.

Nephros (Greek) does mean kidney, but is used metaphorically to mean the inmost mind (self).
Kilyah (Hebrew) also means kidney, but is used metaphorically to mean the mind, innermost self.

How can you know this for a fact? How do you know that the holy spirit doesn't actually reside in the space where the kidney is?

The Holy Spirit lives in me, that's how I know, what happened to you. The Holy Spirit being spirit lives anywhere within me He desires, I assume in the whole of the body.

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Sure. I mean, the exact location is probably an inconsequential detail, but the point I'm trying to make is that you assume it is in your whole body when it could reside in the liver. I don't think either of us really know, but I'm just not sure how you know Jesus was being metaphorical.

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You see when Christ searches, it is the innermost being of man, that which makes the moral choice, man's spirit.

For acts 19, the baptism the people were baptized into was John's baptism, Paul baptized them into Christ the Lord Jesus, because only Jesus can save.
Tell you what, you want to know what the Holy Spirit is like, become a believer in Christ and you can find out, would that not be the scientific thing to do, experience it first hand. I mean scientist believe there is dark matter and dark energy and they have not nor can they see it or prove it exist.
Now a question for you, tell me why is it that when one loses a loved one, a wife,husband, girlfriend ect. do you not get a head ache, instead you ache (feel the hurt) in one's chest. Why is it that when one is sad they feel the sadness in their chest, by your statement one should get a terrible head ache.

Most atheists were once believers, as was I. I didn't feel the holy spirit. As for your second statement, are you trying to argue that the heart is the literal source of emotion? In fact, your example would show just why there isn't a holy spirit. If people can have an emotional experience translate into something physical independent of belief in god, independent of 'the holy spirit', does this not demonstrate that any feeling attributed to 'the holy spirit' is most likely self delusion?

How do you know most atheist were once believers, I find that hard to believe, what I would believe, most were pretenders for some reason or the other.
See you fail to read all my statement, I have already answered, that I nor most Christians believe the emotional center is in the heart, how childish. I also was not trying to say that the Holy Spirit was the cause of emotional experiences, some related to God yes, but not all. I asked for an answer to my question and you dodge around it by making such an absurd claim. The Holy Spirit resides in believers as a counselor, as our way of hearing God the Father and Christ the savior and since you never heard God, then you did not have the Holy Spirit and without the Holy Spirit no salvation.

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Yep, no true scotsman, right on cue. I don't know what the point of bringing up heartache in a literal sense was if you weren't trying to argue for some extranatural cause for it.

I thought you were going to respond to my statement in the other post, yet you're here jumping in the middle of this conversation.

Maybe I missed your other post; I'll go back and check.
EDIT: Not sure which post you are referring to, now as for the other question...

Now a question for you, tell me why is it that when one loses a loved one, a wife,husband, girlfriend ect. do you not get a head ache, instead you ache (feel the hurt) in one's chest. Why is it that when one is sad they feel the sadness in their chest, by your statement one should get a terrible head ache.

Ever heard of the phrase "mind over matter"? http://www.science20.com/variety_tap/sci...reak-33900

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Anyone who's ever gone through the emotional pain of a heartbreak more often than not can express the experience through the form of some type of physical pain. Emotions affect physical health in more ways than many realize, but how does the body physically feel the emotional loss; in other words, what is it that brings pain to the heartbreak?

"Pain is the way the mind responds to trouble inside the body," says Alex Zautra, a professor of psychology at Arizona State University. "Emotion is the same way. Whether you feel love or sadness is also a response to something you feel outside the body. With pain it is a closer-in response, to something inside the body, but it is a response in an attempt to learn about and motivate recovery."

The depression caused by heartbreak creates a barrier that can prevent us from feeling and experiencing life to the fullest, in all aspects. Symptoms vary byindividual and range from withdrawal from society to
physical sickness and pain.

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Also, I don't know how my statement implied there should be headache (unless we are thinking of a different statement).