My first atheist forum experience!

[The Grand Nudger]

Or, if you'd prefer to discuss with your friend the course that mormonism took after it's manufacture, and as soon as it gained any measure of power - however temporary -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

On Friday, September 11, 1857, two militiamen approached the Baker-Fancher party wagons with a white flag and were soon followed by Native American agent and militia officer John D. Lee. Lee told the battle-weary emigrants that he had negotiated a truce with the Paiutes, whereby they could be escorted safely the 36 miles (58 km) back to Cedar City under Mormon protection in exchange for turning all of their livestock and supplies over to the Native Americans.[14] Accepting this, the emigrants were led out of their fortification. The adult men were separated from the women and children. The men were paired with a militia escort. When a signal was given, the militiamen turned and shot the male members of the Baker-Fancher party standing by their side. The women and children were then ambushed and killed by more militia that were hiding in nearby bushes and ravines. Members of the militia were sworn to secrecy. A plan was set to blame the massacre on the Native Americans. The militia did not kill some small children who were deemed too young to relate the story. These children were taken in by local Mormon families. Seventeen of the children were later reclaimed by the U.S. Army and returned to relatives in Arkansas.

For those not willing to commit to the entry.. these cocksuckers dressed up as natives and attacked an emigrant wagon train -apparently they thought their brand new theocratic democracy was somehow threatened by them....when someone mentioned that he thought the immigrants might have noticed that they were, in fact, whites - this was the plan to deal with any remaining witnesses to the siege......that's right..I said siege.