H Fox, welcome to AF.
I don't think it is relevant at all who the audience is in favor of in these debates. Humans should base opinion on critical thinking not on crowds.
Second, I think you've formulated things very well here:
"Your absolutely right, objective morals do not exist, they are a biproduct of evolution of a social species. In order for our species to survive, it was advantageous for us to form a social structure and in doing so morals came about for everyones benefit. This does mean that rape, phedophilia, murder, etc.. is not wrong because its wrong, as there is not absolute right and wrong, there is only our subjective social structures view, and we agree as a people to avoid things that are destructive to our society and punish those who permit undesirable deeds. What it comes down to is: reality is the way it is, wether we like it or not, and that fact is certainly not self refuting."
It seems to me you have a talent for clear statement and done some critical thinking to come from christianity to this statement, so why worry about the public performance of others? Your stance is the one that matters to you. If the religious want to follow through on the path of fabulation they will follow through on the path of fabulation. Our job is not to show 'm the light.
I don't think it is relevant at all who the audience is in favor of in these debates. Humans should base opinion on critical thinking not on crowds.
Second, I think you've formulated things very well here:
"Your absolutely right, objective morals do not exist, they are a biproduct of evolution of a social species. In order for our species to survive, it was advantageous for us to form a social structure and in doing so morals came about for everyones benefit. This does mean that rape, phedophilia, murder, etc.. is not wrong because its wrong, as there is not absolute right and wrong, there is only our subjective social structures view, and we agree as a people to avoid things that are destructive to our society and punish those who permit undesirable deeds. What it comes down to is: reality is the way it is, wether we like it or not, and that fact is certainly not self refuting."
It seems to me you have a talent for clear statement and done some critical thinking to come from christianity to this statement, so why worry about the public performance of others? Your stance is the one that matters to you. If the religious want to follow through on the path of fabulation they will follow through on the path of fabulation. Our job is not to show 'm the light.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
