RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
December 19, 2016 at 12:49 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2016 at 12:50 pm by paulpablo.)
(December 19, 2016 at 11:53 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(December 19, 2016 at 7:04 am)paulpablo Wrote: I can tell you've put the shutters down so you won't accept any points I'm about to make but you're wrong.
I've got in arguments with white people several times, in person, and they've specifically said something along the lines of they're going to tell some non white people I'm racist so I get beaten up.
Well none of that is remotely relevant and is completely besides the point. The fact that there are some childish people who are basically like "Imma tell those people you're a racist so they beat you up" doesn't mean that generally speaking if you're not racist you don't have to worry about being called racist. Generally speaking racists get called racist for being racist and my point is that calling out actual racists who are actually racist is a GOOD THING and not disrespectful. If a racist is going to say "HOW DARE YOU CALL ALL RACISTS RACIST! THAT'S SO BIGOTED!" then they're a fucking moron. All racists are racist and all bigots are bigots and people who actually do display racist and bigoted behavior do need to be called out on it. If racists and bigots are going to have the freedom of speech to say fucking racist and fucking bigoted things then yes everyone else absolutely should have the freedom of speech to call them racists and bigots.
That's a fucking retarded double standard to suggest that it's disrespectful to call actual racists and bigots racists and bigots. It's disrespectful to be racist and simply honest to call a racist a racist. It's letting the racists and bigots win if we silence the people who call them racists and bigots. That's fucking retarded.
(December 19, 2016 at 11:42 am)Shell B Wrote: To be fair, in my personal life, most of the people I know who are racist love the shit out of Donald Trump. I'm not surprised at all that other people have this experience and draw the conclusion that racists like Trump. Not all Trumpers are racist, but come on. He's the obvious choice if you are. I'm not entirely sure if he's racist or just so fucking elitist that he looks racist.
Absolutely. Not all Trump supporters are racist but most racists have a lot of reason to support Trump.
Even if Trump isn't racist, supporting Trump is in effect supporting racism by proxy because of the racist things he says regardless of if he is actually racist. So yes that would make Trump supporters supporters of racism even if neither Trump nor his supporters were racist.
But calling people racist can be used as a tactic of intimidation potentially against people who aren't racist.
(December 19, 2016 at 11:53 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(December 19, 2016 at 7:04 am)paulpablo Wrote: I can tell you've put the shutters down so you won't accept any points I'm about to make but you're wrong.
I've got in arguments with white people several times, in person, and they've specifically said something along the lines of they're going to tell some non white people I'm racist so I get beaten up.
Well none of that is remotely relevant and is completely besides the point. The fact that there are some childish people who are basically like "Imma tell those people you're a racist so they beat you up" doesn't mean that generally speaking if you're not racist you don't have to worry about being called racist. Generally speaking racists get called racist for being racist and my point is that calling out actual racists who are actually racist is a GOOD THING and not disrespectful. If a racist is going to say "HOW DARE YOU CALL ALL RACISTS RACIST! THAT'S SO BIGOTED!" then they're a fucking moron. All racists are racist and all bigots are bigots and people who actually do display racist and bigoted behavior do need to be called out on it. If racists and bigots are going to have the freedom of speech to say fucking racist and fucking bigoted things then yes everyone else absolutely should have the freedom of speech to call them racists and bigots.
That's a fucking retarded double standard to suggest that it's disrespectful to call actual racists and bigots racists and bigots. It's disrespectful to be racist and simply honest to call a racist a racist. It's letting the racists and bigots win if we silence the people who call them racists and bigots. That's fucking retarded.
(December 19, 2016 at 11:42 am)Shell B Wrote: To be fair, in my personal life, most of the people I know who are racist love the shit out of Donald Trump. I'm not surprised at all that other people have this experience and draw the conclusion that racists like Trump. Not all Trumpers are racist, but come on. He's the obvious choice if you are. I'm not entirely sure if he's racist or just so fucking elitist that he looks racist.
Absolutely. Not all Trump supporters are racist but most racists have a lot of reason to support Trump.
Even if Trump isn't racist, supporting Trump is in effect supporting racism by proxy because of the racist things he says regardless of if he is actually racist. So yes that would make Trump supporters supporters of racism even if neither Trump nor his supporters were racist.
But calling people racist can be used as a tactic of intimidation potentially against people who aren't racist.
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Impersonation is treason.
