To be fair, in my personal life, most of the people I know who are racist love the shit out of Donald Trump. I'm not surprised at all that other people have this experience and draw the conclusion that racists like Trump. Not all Trumpers are racist, but come on. He's the obvious choice if you are. I'm not entirely sure if he's racist or just so fucking elitist that he looks racist.

Drama hater killer. What is wrong with you? hehehehe

Also, give it a rest. People have a reason to grieve. This motherfucker has said some fucked up shit over the course of his time in the spotlight. You're daft if you don't think electing a guy who is so blatantly misogynist is bad for women. Again, I refer back to an incident that happened to me just days after the grab em by the pussy debacle. I had a man say to me he wouldn't blame men for grabbing my crotch. You don't think Trump has created a "safe space" for fucks like this? It's a sad day when enough of a country writes off that behavior as "locker room talk" or the words of a man who has changed that he actually gets elected. That many men and women have that much disrespect for women that this happened. I'd say taking words from someone here too seriously is maybe "crybaby," but being affected by the president-elect? He's not a fucking stranger. He's going to be the leader of the free world and he doesn't know what freedom is.

(December 19, 2016 at 7:04 am)paulpablo Wrote: I can tell you've put the shutters down so you won't accept any points I'm about to make but you're wrong.

I've got in arguments with white people several times, in person, and they've specifically said something along the lines of they're going to tell some non white people I'm racist so I get beaten up.

Well none of that is remotely relevant and is completely besides the point. The fact that there are some childish people who are basically like "Imma tell those people you're a racist so they beat you up" doesn't mean that generally speaking if you're not racist you don't have to worry about being called racist. Generally speaking racists get called racist for being racist and my point is that calling out actual racists who are actually racist is a GOOD THING and not disrespectful. If a racist is going to say "HOW DARE YOU CALL ALL RACISTS RACIST! THAT'S SO BIGOTED!" then they're a fucking moron. All racists are racist and all bigots are bigots and people who actually do display racist and bigoted behavior do need to be called out on it. If racists and bigots are going to have the freedom of speech to say fucking racist and fucking bigoted things then yes everyone else absolutely should have the freedom of speech to call them racists and bigots.

That's a fucking retarded double standard to suggest that it's disrespectful to call actual racists and bigots racists and bigots. It's disrespectful to be racist and simply honest to call a racist a racist. It's letting the racists and bigots win if we silence the people who call them racists and bigots. That's fucking retarded.

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(December 19, 2016 at 11:42 am)Shell B Wrote: To be fair, in my personal life, most of the people I know who are racist love the shit out of Donald Trump. I'm not surprised at all that other people have this experience and draw the conclusion that racists like Trump. Not all Trumpers are racist, but come on. He's the obvious choice if you are. I'm not entirely sure if he's racist or just so fucking elitist that he looks racist.

Absolutely. Not all Trump supporters are racist but most racists have a lot of reason to support Trump.

Even if Trump isn't racist, supporting Trump is in effect supporting racism by proxy because of the racist things he says regardless of if he is actually racist. So yes that would make Trump supporters supporters of racism even if neither Trump nor his supporters were racist.

(December 19, 2016 at 11:48 am)Shell B Wrote: Also, give it a rest. People have a reason to grieve. This motherfucker has said some fucked up shit over the course of his time in the spotlight. You're daft if you don't think electing a guy who is so blatantly misogynist is bad for women. Again, I refer back to an incident that happened to me just days after the grab em by the pussy debacle. I had a man say to me he wouldn't blame men for grabbing my crotch. You don't think Trump has created a "safe space" for fucks like this? It's a sad day when enough of a country writes off that behavior as "locker room talk" or the words of a man who has changed that he actually gets elected. That many men and women have that much disrespect for women that this happened. I'd say taking words from someone here too seriously is maybe "crybaby," but being affected by the president-elect? He's not a fucking stranger. He's going to be the leader of the free world and he doesn't know what freedom is.

You've never talked about dicks with your girlfriends in private?

Also, what Trump said was that if you're a celebrity women let you grab them in the crotch in a jocking manner, not that he actually advocates doing it or something.

If Trump hate women so much why did so many women vote for him despite Hillary clearly showing favoritism towards women?(for their votes. Then it's bye bye)

(December 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm)pool the great Wrote: You've never talked about dicks with your girlfriends in private?  

I've never talked about grabbing a man's dick without permission. There's a difference. If you don't know it, learn it. If you joke about grabbing women without permission, you should go fuck yourself.

Quote:Also, what Trump said was that if you're a celebrity women let you grab them in the crotch in a jocking manner, not that he actually advocates doing it or something.

That's not what he said. He said he can grab women by the pussy and they don't do anything about it because he's a celebrity. He's saying he can sexually assault women and they are too starstruck or scared to retaliate. That's not a fucking joke or a jock.

Quote:If Trump hate women so much why did so many women vote for him despite Hillary clearly showing favoritism towards women?

That's a terrible argument. Firstly, Trump is singular. It's hates. Secondly, the idea that Trump can't be misogynist because women voted for him is ludicrous. Women have also married him in spite of him being the color and texture of ear wax. What's your point?

(December 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm)pool the great Wrote: [...]If Trump hate women so much why did so many women vote for him[...]

Because many women - just like many men - are dumb c*nts.

(December 19, 2016 at 11:41 am)plumbing101mike Wrote: Much like your perception of trump as a horrible horrible person.

Well, if you actually listened to the man and learned something about him, there's no other conclusion to come to.

Let's see...he refuses to pay his contractors and drowns them in litigation when they try to get what they deserve, has been sued 3,500 times, brags about sexually assaulting women, has mocked a person with disability, stokes racial tension to win an election and even uses false information to do so, re-tweets white supremacists frequently, headed the racist birther movement, peddles obvious conspiracy theories, doesn't care whether anything he says is true, blatantly lies a lot, bullies and insults other people but cries like a bitch when someone does it to him, says he wants to create a registry of Muslims just like the Nazis did for the Jews, doesn't understand why we can't use nuclear weapons, wants to murder the children of terrorists, thinks we should use stronger methods of torture despite the fact that torture has been proven not to work, flip-flops on issues whenever it suits him, thinks he knows everything about everything, implied that Hillary should be assassinated if elected, scammed people with a fake university, called for the death penalty for five Hispanic teenagers convicted of rape(who turned out to be innocent), insults a war hero that was captured and tortured despite the fact that the's a cowardly draft-dodger, admires dictators like Sadaam Hussein and Putin, talks about curbing the rights of the press despite that being a fundamental part of our constitution, claims to be self-made even though he was born with a silver spoon and got his start thanks to daddy's money and power, frequently insults women with misogynist language, and I could go on and on and on...

Now, some people will not find all of these as horrible, but the fact that I could go on and on with a list of things that any sane person would consider bad, makes him a bad person. So Trump supporters aren't actually asking to be allowed their own opinion. They are asking to be allowed their own facts.

Sure, Hillary wasn't a great candidate either, but trying to claim that Trump was is just delusional. You think he was electable? Fine, but just stop pretending like he isn't a completely ignorant asshole.

What? You're getting crazy mad over a non issue.

That conversation of Trump was a private conversation. You're judging him based on that private conversation. Are you confident enough to believe if tomorrow all your private conversations and thoughts were public that people wouldn't judge you?

Besides, both men and women joke about these kinds of things all the time, considering some of the things I've heard women talk about Trump is a literal saint.

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There's no need to get so mad at a joke, don't be so silly. We're not perfect people either.

(December 19, 2016 at 12:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: What? You're getting crazy mad over a non issue.

You're using words like crazy and mad to try and discredit my argument without actually addressing my argument. I'm not stupid enough to be gaslighted, champ.

Quote:That conversation of Trump was a private conversation.

Quote:You're judging him based on that private conversation. Are you confident enough to believe if tomorrow all your private conversations and thoughts were public that people wouldn't judge you?

I'm going to say this slow. Take your time with it. I'm. not. running. for. president. I. also. don't. joke. about. sexually. assaulting. people. If you don't understand that, go back and read it again.

Quote:Besides, both men and women joke about these kinds of things all the time, considering some of the things I've heard women talk about Trump is a literal saint.

You hang out with shitty women and don't know what literally means.

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There's no need to get so mad at a joke, don't be so silly. We're not perfect people either.

I bet you're the kind of guy who cheats on his girlfriend and then calls her crazy when she catches you, aren't you? I'm not mad. I'm a woman. I'm used to people making light of sexual assault and acting like it's okay. I've had a vagina my whole life, bruh.