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RE: Hello
July 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm (This post was last modified: July 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm by Simon Moon.)
Welcome Vorith!

(July 14, 2012 at 12:01 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: With all due respect it really seems to me that this is just a way to evade any burden of proof for the absolute claim to know that there is no God(s).

Since atheism is NOT the absolute claim that there is no God(s), there is no burden of proof. So all is well.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Hello
July 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm
(July 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Welcome Vorith!

(July 14, 2012 at 12:01 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: With all due respect it really seems to me that this is just a way to evade any burden of proof for the absolute claim to know that there is no God(s).

Since atheism is NOT the absolute claim that there is no God(s), there is no burden of proof. So all is well.

You define it as such because you have no evidence to support the belief that there is no God.
"the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate" (1 Cor. 1:19)
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RE: Hello
July 20, 2012 at 9:47 am
Welcome Vorinth
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Hello
July 20, 2012 at 10:19 am
(July 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: You define it as such because you have no evidence to support the belief that there is no God.

One: we don't have 'the belief that there is no God'. I assume from your ability to post that you're not a complete moron, so I won't repeat yet again the distinction between 'I don't believe X' and 'I believe not X'.

I define it as such because I'm a rational skeptic, and we tend to be cautious about our claims. I won't state absolutely that no Bigfoot exists, although I don't believe one does. It's not to evade the burden of proof, it's because I acknowledge that there's a possibility that Bigfoot exists. I just don't think the evidence available is nearly enough to conclude that Bigfoot is real. I don't even state absolutely that leprechauns don't exist.

But I'll play the 'assign motives to other people that imply they're lying about their reasons' game: You insist we are trying to evade the burden of proof because you know that you can't meet the burden of proof and are yourself trying to evade the burden of proof.

Will you even define the God you claim there's no evidence against?
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RE: Hello
July 20, 2012 at 10:21 am
Agree with Mister Agenda...IF there is no evidence why believe?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Hello
July 20, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Welcome to the forums! I'm pretty new here too, also from the UK and also a gamer. I'll keep an eye out for your future posts Smile
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RE: Hello
July 20, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Welcome to the forums, I only joined yesterday, it's been a wonderful experience so far. Nice to see that we have another convert in our midst. Hope you enjoy your time here.
"Stop chasing your tail and relax. Jesus is watching you make shit up." Shell B to CliveStaples

(July 21, 2012 at 12:31 am)cato123 Wrote:
(July 21, 2012 at 12:22 am)C.W. Sims Wrote: I for one, as a homo, must say that if he was a homo, then he had to have looked fabulous on that cross. Nearly naked, body all ripped, oh wait.... yeah, never mind. I'm gonna just stop right there before I offend anyone. ROFLOL

I have a certain distaste for the emoticons, and particularly despise the laughing/rolling dude when used in response to one's own statement, but.....

Holy fuck that was funny! "Nearly naked, body all ripped,....". Oh, fuck me. I'm still laughing but can no longer piss myself since I've emptied the tank.
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