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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 5:22 am
(September 9, 2012 at 11:29 pm)IATIA Wrote: Again, my post was a direct response to Kayenneh , i.e. "If you worship the sun as a sentient creature, you're stupid.", it was he that made the positive claim and it was I that queried the proof.
Prove to me that the sun has neurons and a brain to think with, then we can talk. 
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 5:41 am
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2012 at 5:42 am by Dumac Dwarfking.)
Sentience/subjective experience is something not really understood at all, and something that some philosophers consider impossible to explain. It does not fall under the other categories of consciousness such as self awareness and intelligence, but is something independent. It's impossible to observe a subjective experience. That being said, I agree with 5thHorseman. Whether you worship it or not will make no difference. Why waste the energy?
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 5:48 am
Always worshipped the sun...dear old Sol....
Got the tan to prove it if ya like 
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 6:04 am
At least as a heliotheist you can prove the existence of your deity 
Just keep your prayers very specific.
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 6:07 am
Like lying naked, coated in Coconut oil and soaking up the UVA's, UVB's ?
Only to go into the surf when it gets too hot?
I am liking this deity
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 10, 2012 at 4:28 pm
(September 10, 2012 at 6:04 am)Zen Badger Wrote: At least as a heliotheist you can prove the existence of your deity
Just keep your prayers very specific.
Well, I certainly won't be praying to the sun but I think that this is a reverence that I like and it is the closest thing to theism that anyone will ever catch me practicing
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm
(September 10, 2012 at 5:22 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Prove to me that the sun has neurons and a brain to think with, then we can talk. Actually, there is no proof that awareness requires neurons or a brain. I do, however, think it highly unlikely the sun is aware, at least to any extent worth discussing at this point.
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm
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(September 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm)IATIA Wrote: Actually, there is no proof that awareness requires neurons or a brain.
Interesting.. Would indeed be a topic for a nice discussion.
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 12, 2012 at 3:46 pm
(September 9, 2012 at 4:27 pm)liam Wrote: What are you guys and gyals opinion on sun worship? I'm persoally quite the fan, yet not partial to accept 'personal sun' theory. But, rather, the appreciation of the sun (like the aztecs, sans sacrifice).
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RE: Thoughts on heliotheism
September 12, 2012 at 3:49 pm
(September 12, 2012 at 3:46 pm)Chuck Wrote: I am no Icarus.
Fuck you, I'm gonna fly really high, YOLO.
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