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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 12:01 am
(February 5, 2013 at 5:39 am)Christian Wrote: My Pastor told me something today that confirmed to me, beyond all doubts, that my Lord exists. I hope the below explanation makes sense to you too and you are to decide the truth in this.
Code: Out of hundreds of planets in the universe, why is the earth only one supporting life? Because someone made it that way. We have explored the whole universe and only the earth supports life. That is evidence enough for something higher than all of us.
That's nuts! We haven't explored the entire universe, not even the tiniest sliver of it. This universe is huge, there are billions and billions of planets, and it is very likely that other planets have life.
Your pastor is deluded. Please don't rely on what he says, read and think for yourself.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm
(February 16, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (February 16, 2013 at 2:25 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: He does have a bit of a point. Look around us. Is this not beautiful? (you know, the parts of it that are still nature and not touched by man)
This could not be a mere coinsidence!
Who says it is?
The earth, the creatures on it, even the universe it inhabits, is the culmination of billions of years of physical processes working ceaselessly, constructing and reconstructing the natural world over and over. And the process is hardly completed, either.  Why does a thing need a designer to be beautiful?
Hey, actually: why is it that things touched by man are unnatural and therefore bad, and yet things you believe were designed by god are beautiful? In your mind, both things have designers, both things are as unnatural as the other. Think about that.
Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 9:49 pm
So disease is superior to its' cure?
Stunning logic you've got there.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Ohhh Cthulhu!! You see what you did now?
You made him run away.
Just when it was about to get more and more funny.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 10:14 pm
(February 16, 2013 at 2:25 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: He does have a bit of a point. Look around us. Is this not beautiful? (you know, the parts of it that are still nature and not touched by man)
This could not be a mere coinsidence!
Argumentum ad Incredulum.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm by Cyberman.)
Indeed. Not to mention anthropocentric in the extreme myopic sense. We may indeed look at nature and think it beautiful; the creatures whose habitat it is and whose lives balance on a knife edge every moment of every day might, if asked, have a somewhat different opinion.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2013 at 10:49 pm by Question Mark.)
Quite apart from the obvious fact that we haven't yet explored the entire universe, There's no connection between "Earth has life on it and no other one we've seen does" and "Therefore god exists". You're going to have to draw the line for me there.
I'm of the opinion that this is a joke thread though, so if anyone reading this feels they want to step in and explain it, feel free to do so 
As to the so-called incredible state of nature, sure, it is incredible. But so's a towering city, the vastness of space, the infinite smallness of the individual microbe. Everything is beautiful in its way because humans have a tendency to attribute favouritism to things that please their individual senses. I don't see how that's proof of anything more than that humans can see beauty in things.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 18, 2013 at 12:08 am
(February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.
Where do you draw the line there? Humans are as natural as any animal, even if you believe in god; god made people, after all. So why are the things people make unnatural? Is it just things that are made that are unnatural? Or just things humans make?
Humans aren't the only creatures that build things, you know. Is a beaver dam unnatural? A termite mound? A bird's nest? Where is your line between constructed things that are natural, and constructed things that aren't? Furthermore, how can you convince me that this line is anything but arbitrary?
And why are "natural" things superior to "unnatural" things anyway? How are you judging this?
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 18, 2013 at 12:17 am
(February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.
I support your position 100%. I think you should immediately give up all unnatural things like clothes, cooked food, artificial shelters, medicine etc. and go back to the jungle to live like an animal. That is the superior way after all.
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RE: Earth - Proof of God?
February 18, 2013 at 12:54 am
(February 18, 2013 at 12:17 am)genkaus Wrote: (February 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: Things touched my man are unnatural. Unnatural is, erm...not natural. I prefer the natural, the things created by Him. Even if you eliminate the God part, nature is superior to anything man has done do it in the history of the Earth.
I support your position 100%. I think you should immediately give up all unnatural things like clothes, cooked food, artificial shelters, medicine etc. and go back to the jungle to live like an animal. That is the superior way after all.
Not to mention anything produced via agriculture, animal husbandry, etc. Back to 10,000 BC! Except that you won't be able to use any of those inferior stone tools either, being touched by man and all that. Sounds wonderful.
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