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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 9, 2013 at 7:13 pm
(June 9, 2013 at 7:00 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Does your wife or daughter walk naked in the streets?
There's nothing I could do, legally, to prevent either, because I own neither. This is a good thing.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am
(June 9, 2013 at 7:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (June 9, 2013 at 7:00 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Does your wife or daughter walk naked in the streets?
There's nothing I could do, legally, to prevent either, because I own neither. This is a good thing. I'm not asking you to prevent it, I mean your (or their) feelings about that!
It is an instinct in us to cover our private parts
God created most animals with something covering their private parts, except for human because God made that as a duty on them.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 10, 2013 at 8:31 am
(June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: God created most animals with something covering their private parts, except for human because God made that as a duty on them. Oh, so now the nudists are going to hell too? God damnit.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 7:39 am
(June 10, 2013 at 8:31 am)littleendian Wrote: (June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: God created most animals with something covering their private parts, except for human because God made that as a duty on them. Oh, so now the nudists are going to hell too? God damnit. Yes, and God have a special punishment for them (Enjoy......)
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 8:42 am
(June 9, 2013 at 7:14 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 9, 2013 at 7:07 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Because of course, they are a possession and not a person in their own right.
Isn't that so MS? Does your wife or daughter walk naked in the streets?
Completely irrelevant..
But I'll make this point.
Kimchi smokes, a habit I personally don't approve of.
But I will cut off my left arm before I tell her that she shouldn't smoke.
Because she is an adult more than capable of making her own choices and for me to try to take that away from her would make me the biggest arsehole in the world.
As it does any man wishing to control their partner by coercion or force.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 8:54 am
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(June 12, 2013 at 8:42 am)Zen Badger Wrote: As it does any man wishing to control their partner by coercion or force. Because your marriage system is different than Islamic one.
In Islam it is the same like any other successful system in the world (even yours) it is hierarchical i.e. a boss and subordinates under him
All systems in the world is like that (Political, business, sports, etc.)
The Islamic model is based on that models
Your system is based on nothing!
I had many American friends that they wised to have marriage like the Islamic ones (where wives obey their husbands)
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 9:07 am
(June 12, 2013 at 8:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Your system is based on nothing!
That system is based upon marriage being an equal partnership. That is not nothing, and it prevents one spouse from having authority over the other.
You seem to think that marriage is equal to a man purchasing a woman.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 9:16 am
(June 12, 2013 at 8:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 12, 2013 at 8:42 am)Zen Badger Wrote: As it does any man wishing to control their partner by coercion or force. Because your marriage system is different than Islamic one.
In Islam it is the same like any other successful system in the world (even yours) it is hierarchical i.e. a boss and subordinates under him
All systems in the world is like that (Political, business, sports, etc.)
The Islamic model is based on that models
Your system is based on nothing!
I had many American friends that they wised to have marriage like the Islamic ones (where wives obey their husbands)
That is the largest bullshit I have ever read. Base of a premise of bullshit. So, a wife has put up with piece of shits? They are not equal, because she is beneath the husband. Marriage is not a fucking company. Dude, I feel sorry for your wife/boyfriend.
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 12, 2013 at 9:17 am
(June 12, 2013 at 8:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I had many American friends that they wised to have marriage like the Islamic ones (where wives obey their husbands) I had a much more positive view on Islam before I started reading your posts, thanks for clearing these things up for me. 
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RE: Question about female worth in islam.
June 13, 2013 at 6:52 am
(June 12, 2013 at 8:54 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (June 12, 2013 at 8:42 am)Zen Badger Wrote: As it does any man wishing to control their partner by coercion or force. Because your marriage system is different than Islamic one.
In Islam it is the same like any other successful system in the world (even yours) it is hierarchical i.e. a boss and subordinates under him
All systems in the world is like that (Political, business, sports, etc.)
The Islamic model is based on that models
Your system is based on nothing!
I had many American friends that they wised to have marriage like the Islamic ones (where wives obey their husbands)
No dickhead, it is based on the understanding that two people in a relationship are equal. With equal responsibilities and rights in that relationship.
You on the other hand, would advocate for a system where the woman is a virtual slave to the husband.
Fuck that pal. And fuck you and your slimy,evil,paedophile prophet.
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