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Joking vs mockery, respect or disrespect?
#41
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
(April 2, 2013 at 11:53 am)Insanity x Wrote: I like most of the theists on here.

I don't. Fuck em, and fuck em twice if they can't take a joke.
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#42
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
(April 2, 2013 at 1:56 pm)Kayenneh Wrote:
(April 2, 2013 at 1:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The title is a huge strawman!

If you have a better suggestion, present it, and I can change it.

Joking vs mockery, and when to respect or not respect a person.
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#43
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
No, not disgreeing with someone's value purely out of so called "respect" for the other person is in fact an act of profound mockery and contempt for the other person's intellectural and moral maturity.
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#44
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
(April 2, 2013 at 2:07 pm)Chuck Wrote: No, not disgreeing with someone's value purely out of so called "respect" for the other person is in fact an act of profound mockery and contempt for the other person's intellectural and moral maturity.

The Title was not mine. It's a strawman. Neither do I have that position neither does SummerQueen, neither did we debate about this issue.
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#45
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
Ever heard of "yes-men"?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-5...roupthink/

Agreeing out of "respect" usually turns out badly.
(April 2, 2013 at 2:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The Title was not mine. It's a strawman. Neither do I have that position neither does SummerQueen, neither did we debate about this issue.

Tell the mods, I guess.
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#46
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
(April 2, 2013 at 2:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 2, 2013 at 11:53 am)Insanity x Wrote: I like most of the theists on here.

I don't. Fuck em, and fuck em twice if they can't take a joke.

I like them but I don't want to fuck any of them.
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#47
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(April 2, 2013 at 11:37 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Maybe. But I rather show respect to people in general then mockingly disrespect anyone.

I used to feel the same way, but then I grew a pair. I only draw the line at cursing. I honestly believe that cursing shows a sign of weakness in debate. If one curses, the opposition has won by appealing to your emotional side. I prefer to remain focused in debate and get the better of them through intelligent word lingo and logic.
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#48
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
Morality just seems more subjective and subjective the more it's discussed. Smile
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#49
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
Welcome to the rabbit hole.
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#50
RE: Is disagreeing with someone's values disrespect for the person?
It's not so far off, Mystic, as there are many people who feel that if you vehemently disagree with them and find their beliefs and values disgusting, then you are personally insulting them.

Oddly, the one person who never seemed to succumb to this (I could just be misremembering) was dear old Mehmet. He fought "the good fight" for his values (which were deplorable to my western modern eyes) but never acted like a complete jackass about it.

(April 2, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Mr Infidel Wrote: I used to feel the same way, but then I grew a pair. I only draw the line at cursing. I honestly believe that cursing shows a sign of weakness in debate. If one curses, the opposition has won by appealing to your emotional side. I prefer to remain focused in debate and get the better of them through intelligent word lingo and logic.

Don't take away my fucks now. I'm like Lewis Black - I go way over the 40-fuck limit.
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