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what is god actually
#41
RE: what is god actually
I think of it as a dimension like x,y, and z of three dimensional space. To me time is actually three dimensions and our current perception or our three dimensional universe is but a point in three dimensional time. Our history defines a string (Or noodle if you are pastafarian) curving through three dimensional time with other possible choices existing infinitly in all directions but never experienced. So there is a cord through time slightly thicker than the string that is our history, in which people exist at all like we do now.

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#42
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(September 23, 2009 at 11:04 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I think of it as a dimension like x,y, and z of three dimensional space. To me time is actually three dimensions and our current perception or our three dimensional universe is but a point in three dimensional time. Our history defines a string (Or noodle if you are pastafarian) curving through three dimensional time with other possible choices existing infinitly in all directions but never experienced. So there is a cord through time slightly thicker than the string that is our history, in which people exist at all like we do now.

Rhizo

I believe if I'm not mistaken that mathematicians and physicists define the fourth dimension as time?
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#43
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(September 15, 2009 at 9:26 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: the only thing remotely close to what god is suposedly, that exists or has the posibility of existing is: time, and time fits quite a few of the charachteristics god is explained as; all knowing, no begining no end, is everywhere, is all powerful, nobody understands etc.

God represents the unknown.
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#44
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(September 23, 2009 at 8:25 pm)Guerilla Radio Wrote: I believe if I'm not mistaken that mathematicians and physicists define the fourth dimension as time?

The model I was describing has six dimensions, three spatial, three temporal. Imagine space as infinitly vast along three dimensions but space is just a point within time which is infinitly vast in three dimensions. I got the idea after reading about the theory that all things that can happen do happen, only not in the same universe. To account for all the other universes that need a home I think of time being three dimensional. For practical purposes it is not necessary to treat time as anything but a single dimension because that is how our perception works.

Rhizo
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#45
RE: what is god actually
Consider the incredible practical uses of time being non-linear, Rhizo... the possibilities are endless Smile Though how one would solve the time-travel paradoxes that would seem to be involved... I know not... Smile

As for time itself... I've no certainty as to how one even defines what time is... I do not even see how one could define time. We seem to use it as a measuring device... but what is that substance that we are using? Time must exist though, as more than a concept...

Change takes time to occur... without change (and the transition period): nothing could occur. The question is not if time exists as more than a concept (because it must)... the question is this: What is this 'time' that exists?
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#46
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(September 28, 2009 at 3:19 am)Saerules Wrote: Consider the incredible practical uses of time being non-linear, Rhizo... the possibilities are endless Smile Though how one would solve the time-travel paradoxes that would seem to be involved... I know not... Smile

As for time itself... I've no certainty as to how one even defines what time is... I do not even see how one could define time. We seem to use it as a measuring device... but what is that substance that we are using? Time must exist though, as more than a concept...

Change takes time to occur... without change (and the transition period): nothing could occur. The question is not if time exists as more than a concept (because it must)... the question is this: What is this 'time' that exists?

Time is a dimension as described by the theory of General Relativity, if this fact was not true, GPS systems would not work, for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_...ity_on_GPS

Time can also be expressed as the gradual increase in entropy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(arrow_of_time)
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#47
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Sae,

In my understanding time must be at least three dimensional in "front" of us to allow for different choices we can make. It must also be at least three dimensional "behind" us to account for all the different combinations of history that could bring us to this time slice.

Void,

I don't think a couple extra dimensions in time would negate the perceived "one" dimension of time.

Rhizo
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#48
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There is a distinct difference here...

Sae is questioning the concept of time in a philosophical sense but VOID and Rhizo are providing answers of a scientific nature. I sense a clash lol
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#49
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Retorth,

I think Sae and I agree. I am speaking philosophically from my understanding of science. I think Void is just adding some additional knowledge, not speaking against a six dimensional model of reality. To say time is a dimension does not negate that it is three.

Sae and Void,

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Rhizo
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#50
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I stand corrected. I do not know much about time in great detail, just that the explanations seemed to differ to myself, a layman in this topic. Smile
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