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Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
Why would you want to?

I agree with your sentiments, but I have this dread feeling that this comment leads into some kind of stuffy rabbit hole.
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#22
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 28, 2013 at 10:00 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:
(August 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Why would you want to?

I agree with your sentiments, but I have this dread feeling that this comment leads into some kind of stuffy rabbit hole.

...and I agree with your sentiments. My additional concern is that we may unwittingly assist entry to the hole by way of continuous broaching of the sentiment.

I don't know why I think that, though...Thinking
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#23
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
Atheism is not correct. Dudeism is the one true religion.
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#24
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
Atheism isn't a religion, so it can't be right nor wrong.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Why would you want to?

We wouldn't, nor should we have to. Unfortunately, certain people such as leather loving Youtuber ShockofGod think it's a question that needs answering and that nobody has done so yet. He's wrong on both counts but it doesn't seem to deter him.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#26
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 29, 2013 at 11:07 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Atheism isn't a religion, so it can't be right nor wrong.

I disagree that it can't be right or wrong. If there is a God...then it's wrong.
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#27
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
If it was on the same playing field, it could be wrong, but atheism is something else entirely since it makes no claims.
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#28
RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 29, 2013 at 11:17 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: If it was on the same playing field, it could be wrong, but atheism is something else entirely since it makes no claims.

I disagree, since we can (as i did) demonstrate every religion to be false.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
This is often ask by youtube user shock of god, often in a very rude manner, well here is the answer in writing.

first off I'm not even going to bother with what is wrong with this phrasing and just say this. I think he is asking can you prove god does not exists.
Now since shock of god is a christian, then that means his claim of god is the bible and please note that since the bible is the claim, then it cannot be used as evidence that the bible is true or you get circular reasoning. So I present the following.
1. Since atheism is simply a rejection of religious claims, it has no burden of proof and if christians had proof they would not have to use logical fallacies such as shifting the burden of proof to make a argument.
2. The bible makes easily falsified claims, for example genesis 1:11 tells us that the vegetation of the earth was created before the sun. Now a earth without a sun would be something like -180 celsuis and permanently dark. Here I purpose a little experiment, take your mother's petunia or any potted plant and find a large deep freeze and put it in there, and then observe the results. There more disprovable claims then that too E.G plants after noahs flood.
3. Balant contradictions in the bible. For example in 1 john 4:12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
But in exodus 33:11
The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.
And in Genesis 32:22-32 22
That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”
“Jacob,” he answered.
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”
But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.
30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[b] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,[c] and he was limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.
4. Balant design flaws in human anatomy E.G A jaw that is too small to fit all the teeth, the appendix, and the fact that we use one tube for eating and breathing. These are easily avoided design flaws that would have any engineer fired. If adam did have these flaws corrected before the fall then adam would have been a different species from us, probably even a different genus.
5. The positioning of the earth in a inner solar filled with asteriods that could easily wipe out life on earth, agian a glaring over that now sapient designer would make.

So you asked for evidence, there it is.



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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
(August 30, 2013 at 1:42 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(August 29, 2013 at 11:17 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: If it was on the same playing field, it could be wrong, but atheism is something else entirely since it makes no claims.

I disagree, since we can (as i did) demonstrate every religion to be false.

Religion maybe, but god claims remain untouchable. Not that it matters since there's no evidence to show they're true either.
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