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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 3:49 pm
It doesn't take them much to say "checkmate atheists!!!!!!". Really. Look at this thread, right after admitting god's nature is contradictory, Sword of Christ posted this:
(August 27, 2013 at 6:52 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I think I've covered everything here. You can continue deny the logical conclusion of Gods inevitable existence if you like. Sure it isn't inevitable that the God who exists is the Christian God of the Trinity, but I have also covered the arguments for that specific faith in God in relation to all the alternatives available including deism. So...
Just to address the topic question properly what would prove to me that God doesn't exist is if I were to die and discover that I myself didn't exist. Feel free to point out the problem with this method of discovering Gods non-existence. You'll never proven completely wrong as a theist. But you can be proven completely wrong as an atheist.
If you're playing with someone who doesn't know the burden of proof, you can't expect them to realize they're illogical.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Juan2manybeers Wrote: Inaccuracies in a book written thousands of years ago prove there is no God? lol what.
4. The appendix has several functions. Not knowing the function of something is not the same as that something not having a function.
What is flawed about having spare teeth?
Using one tube for eating and breathing is efficient. Choking is a very rare (and avoidable) way to die.
5. There are several big planets in out solar system whose gravity eats up those asteroids. One look at out moon tells us it does the same. This does more to help God's case than harm it.
Inaccuracies in a book that that is suppose to be the word of all knowing being, would go agianst said being
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Choking is not all that rare at all
http://www.ask.com/question/choking-death-statistics
5. We have hit by several in the past, look at the KT extinction. why would a god put those there in the first place
4. wisdom teeth cuase great pain and used kill many people before modern dentistry by becausing infected.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm
The problem with these idiots is that they think they can use "logic" to overcome a lack of facts.
Logic which begins from a flawed premise is always absurd. They do not get it because they too are absurd.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Choking deaths are relatively rare. Choking is not. I haven't choked to death, but I've choked plenty of times when having something enter the windpipe by mistake.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 4:38 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (August 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Juan2manybeers Wrote: Inaccuracies in a book written thousands of years ago prove there is no God? lol what.
4. The appendix has several functions. Not knowing the function of something is not the same as that something not having a function.
What is flawed about having spare teeth?
Using one tube for eating and breathing is efficient. Choking is a very rare (and avoidable) way to die.
5. There are several big planets in out solar system whose gravity eats up those asteroids. One look at out moon tells us it does the same. This does more to help God's case than harm it.
Inaccuracies in a book that that is suppose to be the word of all knowing being, would go agianst said being
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Choking is not all that rare at all
http://www.ask.com/question/choking-death-statistics
5. We have hit by several in the past, look at the KT extinction. why would a god put those there in the first place
4. wisdom teeth cuase great pain and used kill many people before modern dentistry by becausing infected.
God's existence would not be dependent on the accuracy of a book attributed to him, would it?
Maybe, but choking is totally within a persons control to prevent. Small bites, chew properly, don't talk. Pretty simple.
Who knows. Maybe the purpose of devastating asteroids is evolutionary growth. Or maybe not. The world would certainly look a lot different today without the KT extinction. The point is that most asteroids don't reach earth because of this, if designed, ingenious planetary safety net.
Whether God or unguided evolution are responsible for wisdom teeth, i'm pretty sure that cavemen would've taken the pain associated with wisdom teeth over starving to death because most of their old teeth rotted out.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 4:58 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2013 at 5:02 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(August 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Juan2manybeers Wrote: What is flawed about having spare teeth?
Nothing, if your jaw is big enough to hold all of them.
Neither atheism nor theism can actually have a truth value in themselves. Theism is believing at least one God or god exists. It doesn't make sense to say 'prove that believing at least one God or god exists is true'. Ditto for the contrary.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
Let's assume your Christian opponent has a box, inside this box is god. The only way to know for certain if god exists is to look inside the box but, if he/she looks inside the box then they destroy faith, and without faith his/her god cannot exist.
This demonstrates that god must exist in a superposition of both existing and not existing at the same time and any attempt to prove he/she/it exists by looking in the box causes 'faith' to collapse.
Therefore Christians must accept the possibility that god does not exist or else he/she/it cannot exist. Ergo, atheism is the only true position.
Or I'll eat my cat.
MM
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 8:26 pm
I have to admit, when I saw the title of this thread I thought old Crock of Cod himself had graced us with his negligible presence. As others have intimated, he's one of the most irritating rubberduck xtians going. Fuck him and the bike he rode in on.
(August 28, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:How often do you see cats with knee problems?
All the time, if they've been meowing round me for my food.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 8:50 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2013 at 9:59 pm by Bad Writer.)
Shifting the burden of proof halts any meaningful discussion that might be had. That's also assuming the discussion was meaningful in the first place, which is usually demonstrated to not be the case when talking to theists.
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RE: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct?
August 28, 2013 at 9:44 pm
(August 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can you provide proof or evidence that atheism is accurate and correct? Why would you want to?
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