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Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
(January 12, 2014 at 4:14 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(January 12, 2014 at 4:11 am)là bạn điên Wrote: Criticizing someone who happens to be Jewish is fine. Singling out Israel when it is surrounded by countries with much worse records is ,however, gross evidence of antisemitism.
Not really. It depends on the context.

My rule of thumb: unless someone actually comes out and says something that specifically mentions race in some derogatory way, don't play the racism card.

So why is Israel singled out when others (like Syria, Saudi, Iran ,Iraq etc) are vastly worse?
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
Singled out where, and by whom? Again, what is the context of the "singling out"?

It's likely brought up in conversations more by Americans because it is one of their most prominent Middle Eastern allies.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
Is one an anti-semite for making the observation that Israel's shit does in fact stink?

No more so than I am anti-American (being one) for observing that our shit stinks too.

That word has been thrown around far too freely lately here.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
(January 12, 2014 at 4:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: Singled out where, and by whom? Again, what is the context of the "singling out"?

It's likely brought up in conversations more by Americans because it is one of their most prominent Middle Eastern allies.

Why are the Majority of UN resolutions against individual countries against Israel? Since they are often proposed by countries vastly worse it means there is something particular about Israel.

(January 12, 2014 at 4:52 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Is one an anti-semite for making the observation that Israel's shit does in fact stink?

No more so than I am anti-American (being one) for observing that our shit stinks too.

That word has been thrown around far too freely lately here.

So which otehr copuntries do you condemn or is it only the USA and Israel?
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
(January 12, 2014 at 5:46 am)là bạn điên Wrote:
(January 12, 2014 at 4:52 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Is one an anti-semite for making the observation that Israel's shit does in fact stink?

No more so than I am anti-American (being one) for observing that our shit stinks too.

That word has been thrown around far too freely lately here.

So which otehr copuntries do you condemn or is it only the USA and Israel?

More like criticize - and NO country is immune from it when they screw the pooch.

And I'm not so stupid that I can't distinguish between a country's people and their government.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
(January 12, 2014 at 5:51 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 12, 2014 at 5:46 am)là bạn điên Wrote: So which otehr copuntries do you condemn or is it only the USA and Israel?

More like criticize - and NO country is immune from it when they screw the pooch.

And I'm not so stupid that I can't distinguish between a country's people and their government.

All very well but that doesn't explain way Israel gets so much attention. Personally I beleive it is because of i the incredible chauvinism in Muslim countries where they don;t care when Muslims oppress muslims but they are outraged that jews, who their Koran tells them to kill, dare have their own state in 'muslim lands'.

Currently the left in the west pathetically suck up to Islam.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
Quote:You are all antisemites for saying that. He was a great man who stood up for his people & refused to let them be persecuted again.

Not wanting to let your own people be persecuted doesn't give you carte blanche in the persecution and murder of others. You seem to have a lot of difficulty grasping the difference between criticizing a brutal thug who happens to be Jewish and criticizing someone FOR being Jewish.

What are my thoughts on this 'great man'? Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#18
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Ariel Sharon was just a tinpot tyrant personality type that fit perfectly with his regional dictator rulers that he and every other Israeli government supports (with US backing of course). What I find absurd and disgusting is that the New York Times ran a front page obituary yesterday with a glowing article. Pathetic and lame. I mean when Sinn Fean leaders died I don't think Boston newspapers run glowing articles about them ... and Irish American humans heavily supported the nationalist struggle. If anything Israel isn't singled out negatively it gets special attention from the US in positive ways.
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RE: Ariel Sharon Dies at 85
(January 12, 2014 at 4:11 am)là bạn điên Wrote: he was certainly a great man who also did questionable things. His early life in the Irgun when he advocated attacking British soldiers during WW2 is pretty appalling however his later actions were very impressive.

Criticizing someone who happens to be Jewish is fine. Singling out Israel when it is surrounded by countries with much worse records is ,however, gross evidence of antisemitism.

A "great" man responsible for the massacre of many women and children. Not buying it.
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#20
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Criticizing a Jewish person isn't antisemitism, but criticizing a Jewish person for defending their people is.
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