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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 9:33 am
I like #1 it just feels lacking enough for a mention to qualify. Working through God's attributes theists would divide at some point yes.
No doubt some would go with "God is a concept, God is a theory" ... those would be atheists I think
I would certainly go for "logic correctly applied" lol but it sounds a little arrogant! 
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 9:43 am
(March 1, 2014 at 4:04 am)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: To say that God was an attempt to learn about the world is giving too much credit, I think. God is an excuse not to learn about the world. God is the made-up answer to questions that can't be answered. Rather than a tool to aid in learning, it is a substitute for learning. When has the mythology of any god ever directly contributed to any actual knowledge, compared to the appalling number of times the mythology of gods has directly prevented or suppressed the acquisition of actual knowledge?
Right. So perhaps this choice could have been divided into these two:
1) God is the naive anthropomorphization of that which humans are unable to understand in any other way.
vs
2) God is the deliberate fabrication of a hoax 'answer' to 'explain' something that is simply not well understood.
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Definitely 3.
Compare Yahweh to Zeus. Very similar. Both very powerful but not all powerful. Both very capricious. BTW in the early stories Yahweh like Zeus was surrounded by a bevy of minor deities and he had a wife named Asherah.
Early man had trouble thinking of causality except in terms of conscious agency. Yahweh or Zeus or whatever the local king of the gods might be called seemed to explain why the universe is so capricious, sometimes kicking us in the ass and sometimes giving us all that our hearts could desire.
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 1:05 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 1:02 pm)xpastor Wrote: Definitely 3.
Compare Yahweh to Zeus. Very similar. Both very powerful but not all powerful. Both very capricious. BTW in the early stories Yahweh like Zeus was surrounded by a bevy of minor deities and he had a wife named Asherah.
Early man had trouble thinking of causality except in terms of conscious agency. Yahweh or Zeus or whatever the local king of the gods might be called seemed to explain why the universe is so capricious, sometimes kicking us in the ass and sometimes giving us all that our hearts could desire.
There is something preferable about God having a wife. I'm not sure why exactly but the idea of a lone superpower being for eternity is rather depressing. No wonder he's such a misery.
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 1:41 pm
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Interesting to me that the first choice as stated hasn't drawn any votes at all, in spite of posting the poll here in the Christian sub-forum.
(March 1, 2014 at 1:02 pm)xpastor Wrote: Early man had trouble thinking of causality except in terms of conscious agency. Yahweh or Zeus or whatever the local king of the gods might be called seemed to explain why the universe is so capricious, sometimes kicking us in the ass and sometimes giving us all that our hearts could desire.
So gods are basically us projecting onto unseen beings the intentions of ours which might lead us to inflict our fate onto others. That has a solid ring to it. Could be gold.
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March 1, 2014 at 1:46 pm
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(March 1, 2014 at 1:41 pm)whateverist Wrote: Interesting to me that the first choice as stated hasn't drawn any votes at all, in spite of posting the poll here in the Christian sub-forum.
(March 1, 2014 at 1:02 pm)xpastor Wrote: Early man had trouble thinking of causality except in terms of conscious agency. Yahweh or Zeus or whatever the local king of the gods might be called seemed to explain why the universe is so capricious, sometimes kicking us in the ass and sometimes giving us all that our hearts could desire.
So gods are basically us projecting onto unseen beings the intentions of ours which might lead us to inflict our fate onto others. That has a solid ring to it. Could be gold.
Speaks volumes.
God's indefinable attributable characteristics are indicative of his believers' complete unwilling to consider him seriously.
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm
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The definitions serve an atheist view point, so that's hardly surprising. God is pretty comprehensively defined I find.
The poll alienates the non deists by pandering to deism, then alienated deism by factoring literalism, where deists want to be anything but tied down.
Sadly, this thread has turned into another atheist only naval gazing party, slagging off opposing views.
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March 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The definitions serve an atheist view point, so that's hardly surprising. God is pretty comprehensively defined I find.
The poll alienates the non deists by pandering to deism, then alienated deism by factoring literalism, where deists want to be anything but tied down.
Sadly, this thread has turned into another atheist only naval gazing party, slagging off opposing views.
comprehensively defined? Please explain..
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 4:40 pm
God as in capital g, would fit definition 1. Gods as in any being worthy of worship would not need to be in definition 1, but just be immensely great. Capital G God is the creator, small g gods can include great people of the human race as well as other possible races that God could have created.
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RE: What is a 'god'? A poll for anyone with an opinion about what all the fuss is about.
March 1, 2014 at 4:45 pm
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A god is something that never has been properly defined, let alone proved. How many of deist, polytheistic and monoteistic claimed gods are there? They all have the old stench of bullshit.
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