Oh the Double Standards!

[Heywood]

Now if in the next two years, she shows poor judgement or senility...then we can discuss it.

What difference does it make?

[A Theist]

You don't know that. If Hillary decides to run for president in 2016 she'll be the same age as Ronald Reagan when he ran for president in 1979 (both at 69). Hillary will be 73 years old at the end of serving a first term if elected. Unlike Hillary who suffered a head injury there was no health issues to speak of with Ronald Reagan when he ran for office for his first term as president. If there was reason to question Reagan's health at that time there's certainly reason to suspect Hillary's health and fitness for 2016.

It isn't always about age, it is about evidence. Something that republicans ignore and deny.

There was clear evidence that there was a problem with Reagan. There is no doubt there was a problem with John McCains judgement.

But at this point in time, there is no reason to think that Clinton's judgement is anything but solid. Now if in the next two years, she shows poor judgement or senility...then we can discuss it.

No no....you're making a knowingly dishonest comparison to Reagan's age at the time of his re-election in 1984 to Hillary's age in 2016 if she decides to run. The only one ignoring the evidence here is you.

Ronald Reagan was 69 years old when he was first elected President in November of 1979. There was no evidence then that there was any kind of problem with Reagan, except that he was a conservative Republican and you guys on the left hated him for that. That's why you try smear him and ignore the facts about his health at that time.

If she decides to run in 2016, Hillary will be the same age as Ronald Reagan (both at 69) when he was first elected in 1979. Unlike Ronald Reagan, Hillary suffered a pretty serious head injury. We know it's already affected her memory. She can't seem to remember anything correctly on the night of the Benghazi attacks.

Something must be wrong with Susan Rice's memory too. Because even after it became clear that the attack on Benghazi was an organized terrorist attack, Susan Rice appeared five days later on five News shows blaming the attack on an anti muslim you tube video.

It definitely smells like a political cover up to save Barack's re-election.

[downbeatplumb]

When America voted in Reagan it became a world joke.

"They couldn't possibly could they I mean he wasn't even a good actor" we muttered before the cretins in the US did the unthinkable.

You seem to vote in alternatively reasonable people followed by total morons. (George Bush Junior). To the horror of he world coz you have all the nukes.

In fact, Reagan was so confused by "reel" life and reality that he believed that if something appeared on screen, it must have happened. This may explain why Reagan said he had been a tail gunner in a bomber crew during the second world war, despite the fact that he had actually been turned down for active service because of his poor eyesight: in the 1942 war movie Desperate Journey, he steals a German plane, swivels a tail gun and mows down row after row of pursuing Nazis.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2001/nov...sfeatures1

Unlike Altman, I have absolutely no medical expertise, but I covered Reagan as the White House correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, and have a different recollection concerning the views of key Reagan aides. By early 1987, several top White House advisers were so concerned about Reagan’s mental state that they actually talked among themselves about invoking the Twenty-fifth Amendment of the Constitution, which calls for the Vice-President to take over in the event of the President’s incapacity.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/ne...eagan.html

[RaisdCath]

[quote='Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬' pid='671682' dateline='1400263860']
[quote]

". . . is because conservatives have invented and worsened these real problems. (Opinion statement with no factual support.)

It's not because the left fooled people into thinking they are real problems (opinion statement with no factual support)

but because the 30 year campaign of Reaganomics and the culture wars, designed to fool people into thinking they aren't real problems (opinion statement and conclusion with no factual support)

has come apart at the seams (conclusion statement with no factual support).

They know who is trying to keep them down and take away what little they still have (opinion statement coupled with "absolute" argument with no factual support).

Nobody reads newspapers anymore (opinion statement stating absolutes, is incorrect and unsupported by any facts)

and TV news ratings have been in decline for a long time (opinion statement offering generalities as fact - no factual support)

Nobody watches MSNBC (opinion statement using absolutes as fact - obviously incorrect.)

and I don't come across a great many liberals who even like the channel (personal view offered as proof - begs the question)

So, by all means, rail against the Lamestream Media (which is far friendlier to regressive causes than you seem to notice) (opinion statement with no factual support)

Keep telling hard-working, struggling people that they are parasites and moochers (opinion statement with absolutes offered as factual support - also begs the question)

Keep telling women and minorities that they should shut up and know their place. Keep fighting last century's battles. It's why you're fucked in this century (opinion statement using personal attack as argument support - no factual support)


Not a critical thinker, are you? If your parents paid for your education, please return their money at once. If, on the other hand, you are in debt with student loans, you've wasted your money.
[/quote]

[Esquilax]

Raisdcath, part of my job as a mod is to fix borked quotes, but I gotta level with you: I have no fucking idea what you were aiming for with yours in that last post.

[A Theist]

Raisdcath, part of my job as a mod is to fix borked quotes, but I gotta level with you: I have no fucking idea what you were aiming for with yours in that last post.

I think he was responding to Ryantology, below: He had the, [/quote], in the wrong place


Ryantology:

". . . is because conservatives have invented and worsened these real problems. (Opinion statement with no factual support.)

It's not because the left fooled people into thinking they are real problems (opinion statement with no factual support)

but because the 30 year campaign of Reaganomics and the culture wars, designed to fool people into thinking they aren't real problems (opinion statement and conclusion with no factual support)

has come apart at the seams (conclusion statement with no factual support).

They know who is trying to keep them down and take away what little they still have (opinion statement coupled with "absolute" argument with no factual support).

Nobody reads newspapers anymore (opinion statement stating absolutes, is incorrect and unsupported by any facts)

and TV news ratings have been in decline for a long time (opinion statement offering generalities as fact - no factual support)

Nobody watches MSNBC (opinion statement using absolutes as fact - obviously incorrect.)

and I don't come across a great many liberals who even like the channel (personal view offered as proof - begs the question)

So, by all means, rail against the Lamestream Media (which is far friendlier to regressive causes than you seem to notice) (opinion statement with no factual support)

Keep telling hard-working, struggling people that they are parasites and moochers (opinion statement with absolutes offered as factual support - also begs the question)

Keep telling women and minorities that they should shut up and know their place. Keep fighting last century's battles. It's why you're fucked in this century (opinion statement using personal attack as argument support - no factual support)

Response by Raisdcath:
Not a critical thinker, are you? If your parents paid for your education, please return their money at once. If, on the other hand, you are in debt with student loans, you've wasted your money.

[Esquilax]

I think he was responding to Ryantology, below: He had the, [ /quote], in the wrong place

I get that, but then he proceeds to add his own quotation marks and added commentary over each individual line of the quote anyway. He's doubling up!

[Lemonvariable72]

Can someone explain to me what the fuck is the deal with this left vs right, Republican vs Democrat bullshit is? Lets face it they are bought and paid for by the same people and I see the same shit now with Obama that I did with bush. Then again I am Canadian so that's a caveat but it gives me one little insight a lot of Americans miss. Democrats are not left wing. If anything they are slightly to the right of center. Left wing would the new Democratic party under Tommy Douglas or the liberals under Lester b Pearson. Universal healthcare isn't even a new idea anymore and the US is the only first world country that does not have it. All that said I admit I don't know a lot about Hilary Clinton, but what I see of her makes me think she is a shark out for numero uno. As for the Republicans, Ron Paul is one of the saner ones and he's nuts.

[Brian37]

Democracts are fuming over the recent charge from Karl Rove that Hillary may not be up to the task of being president because of a "...serious health episode,”...

Clinton, then the secretary of state, fell and suffered a concussion in December 2012 and was later diagnosed with a blood clot. Her injury postponed her testimony before Congress about the 2012 Benghazi attacks

So, it's okay for the dems to question Ronald Reagan's health when he ran against Mondale, and it was okay for the dems to question McCain's health when he ran against Barack? But it's not okay for the Republicans to question Hillary health? Leftwing double standards as usual.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/...in-damage/

Because Regan had real health issues that were NOT overconflated. Rove fucking lied about the amount of time for what he was accusing her of having. SHE WAS NOT in the hospital 30 days but three days which doctors would not have let her go if she had what he was accusing her of having.

Cant get her on Benghazi not to mention more Diplomats under Bush were killed. Slow news day for liers and sour grape people who act like pissy brats because they lost an ellection.

You listen to that asshat Rove who called Ohio for Romney then had his ass handed to him by FOX staff backstage. Only idiots listen to that fuckwad.

[Ryantology]

Not a critical thinker, are you? If your parents paid for your education, please return their money at once. If, on the other hand, you are in debt with student loans, you've wasted your money.

The guy who spews tired old right-wing propaganda about how we read out of some Saul Alinsky handbook asks for citations?

Well, the thread is about double standards...