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Atheism Ireland denounces hateful bigot PZ Myers
RE: Atheism Ireland denounces hateful bigot PZ Myers
(April 20, 2015 at 2:06 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Define oppression. Is it just one individual male being oppressed? Is it a group of men? How large? And how can males be oppressed if they control most of (1) The media (2) Politics (3) Military (4) Means of production. Do you realize how baseless that is? It's like saying blacks are oppressing whites in America and Europe. They aren't. Women can't oppress men because they don't have military numbers, need to rely on men on politics because they are a minority, are dependent on male bosses because they own a minority of means of production, and are dependent on male controlled media. So how can they oppress men if they don't have power for it? You can't be oppressed if you have power. It's like saying heterosexuals are being oppressed by gays

Well how can you deny male oppression happens? do you really need to be educated on this matter? both genders are oppressed in their own ways.

Which is why feminism doesn't work being a gender inclusive term and movement, while Egalitarianism addresses all genders, even trans-people.
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RE: Atheism Ireland denounces hateful bigot PZ Myers
(April 20, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Godslayer Wrote:
(April 20, 2015 at 2:06 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Define oppression. Is it just one individual male being oppressed? Is it a group of men? How large? And how can males be oppressed if they control most of (1) The media (2) Politics (3) Military (4) Means of production. Do you realize how baseless that is? It's like saying blacks are oppressing whites in America and Europe. They aren't. Women can't oppress men because they don't have military numbers, need to rely on men on politics because they are a minority, are dependent on male bosses because they own a minority of means of production, and are dependent on male controlled media. So how can they oppress men if they don't have power for it? You can't be oppressed if you have power. It's like saying heterosexuals are being oppressed by gays
Well how can you deny male oppression happens? do you really need to be educated on this matter? both genders are oppressed in their own ways.
Which is why feminism doesn't work being a gender inclusive term and movement, while Egalitarianism addresses all genders, even trans-people.
You keep saying this but you have not backed it up. You're going around and around.

Secondly, feminism is part of the bigger egalitarianism movement. So what a false dichotomy you've got here.
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RE: Atheism Ireland denounces hateful bigot PZ Myers
(April 20, 2015 at 1:44 pm)Pizza Wrote:
(April 20, 2015 at 1:43 pm)Godslayer Wrote: Do the feminists care about the men's oppression?
Yes. They care about how strict gender roles hurt men.

Oh..what caring humanists there are..lol..your answer even betrays the new wave feminist bias, the singular pursuit of feminism to helping women only. This is why feminists are not scientifically minded, because gender roles for the most part come from our Evolution and exist all over nature, for beneficial reasons and negative ones. It's not from some boogie man or patriarchy in the shadows.


(April 20, 2015 at 3:20 pm)Pizza Wrote:
(April 20, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Godslayer Wrote: Well how can you deny male oppression happens? do you really need to be educated on this matter? both genders are oppressed in their own ways.
Which is why feminism doesn't work being a gender inclusive term and movement, while Egalitarianism addresses all genders, even trans-people.
You keep saying this but you have not backed it up. You're going around and around.

Secondly, feminism is part of the bigger egalitarianism movement. So what a false dichotomy you've got here.

I keep saying that because those are the majority of feminists you run into on places like tumblr, people in favor of female dominance, male shaming, and awful trends and hashtags like #killallmen. If they gave a shit about women they would move on to women in the WORLD who actually have it hard instead of embracing the victim role in a western society that adores them more than fucking men, and I could give you endless examples of that. Feminism is a superfluous label in the western world that is gender inclusive. Egalitarianism is it's own word, you don't get to adsorb it by fiat. That's fucking absurd. That's like me saying, atheism is just a bigger part of humanism, there's no need for one without the other.
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