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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 2:46 pm
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Quote:Am I teaching pop morality? or am I teaching against it?
You are teaching a version of morality which is literally the most popular in the history of the world.
Quote:Like wise was Christ teaching what was popularly beieved to be 'moral' or was he teaching against it.
It depends on who you ask. The fact that he had a large following attests to the popularity of his new version of Jewish morality.
Quote:You all represent the Established sense of what is thought by the culture to be right and wrong. Like wise so did the pharisees, by your own word.
I'm sorry, you don't get much more established than being 2000 years old, and still very much a dominant force in the world. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christianity is not at death's door.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 3:20 pm
Anyone who needs some ancient book to tell them that killing people is bad = not someone I would like to know.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 3:25 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 3:20 pm)FebruaryOfReason Wrote: Anyone who needs some ancient book to tell them that killing people is bad = not someone I would like to know.
It's more on the lines of exploiting people. I wouldn't want to know these people either. Not that I feel tempted to get to know Drippy anyway. Not going by his post record.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:10 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 1:20 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (February 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Drich Wrote: What I am saying is 'we' with out God can not reliably identify Good or Bad. We see as 'good' to be something that benefits us. we see Bad as something harmful. However we can not see long term effects so we judge 'good and bad' on what we 'feel' the results of an action are right away. Rather than being to determine 'good or bad' on a larger long term scale.
So god could do literally anything, boil a baby and force feed it to its parents and because its god doing that it would be just Dandy coz god, is by default, good. And don't say that sort of thing would not happen because, lets face it, god has "form" for doing what we see as evil shit. turning a woman into a condiment for looking at, what was surely quite a spectacle, being one of the stranger ones. No this idea of yours is abhorrent and shows the paucity of what passes for thinking in some theists.
Just because you or others like you want to assume the worse so you can live a little better than the worst somehow figure yourselves better than God. The problem with your 'what if...' God's law is complete. Has been for 2000 years. so then Where is the command to make parents boil and eat babies??? their isn't such a command so I can say with 100% assuredness that such a command will never come up.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:13 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 6:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Just because you or others like you want to assume the worse so you can live a little better than the worst somehow figure yourselves better than God.
No, I don't figure myself to be god. I figure myself to be just a little bit more educated than the people having invented this particular god. And a bit more enlightened on the side.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:35 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Quote:Am I teaching pop morality? or am I teaching against it?
You are teaching a version of morality which is literally the most popular in the history of the world. Actually no. I am teaching righteousness apart from Morality. I am teaching that our "acts" no longer have a "moral value" after we are saved.
I am teaching the very opposite of morality. Don't confuse this with the teaching of the christian religion. alot of brands of christianity do indeed teach morality. However I represent the bible and not a specific brand. The bible/Christ and Paul teaches righteousness apart from our deeds. Meaning no morality.
Quote:It depends on who you ask. The fact that he had a large following attests to the popularity of his new version of Jewish morality.
Actually what Christ taught was absolutely ground breaking in many aspects, and a call back to God's original word at the same time. Meaning he pointed to the original scriptures but explained it in such a ways as no one thought to take it before. He was popular only because people got fed and fixed around Him.
Quote:I'm sorry, you don't get much more established than being 2000 years old, and still very much a dominant force in the world. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christianity is not at death's door.
But again, what I am teaching has nothing to do with morality, as it is not about acting a certain way or following certain rules as Morality demands.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:36 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 6:13 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 2, 2016 at 6:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Just because you or others like you want to assume the worse so you can live a little better than the worst somehow figure yourselves better than God.
No, I don't figure myself to be god. I figure myself to be just a little bit more educated than the people having invented this particular god. And a bit more enlightened on the side.
Plezze Brauh..
You all blindly march to keep step with whatever pop morality tells you is right and is wrong. You have traded God for peer pressure.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(March 2, 2016 at 6:36 pm)Drich Wrote: You have traded God for peer pressure.
No, I haven't traded god for anything. You can't trade what isn't there.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 6:53 pm
Which would be a good trade, if we had. God is an empty hand...if anyone can get something for nothing, they should jump on that.
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RE: pop morality
March 2, 2016 at 8:56 pm
It still amazes me that theists operate in a realm where they think we acknowledge that their god exists, but have decided not to worship it and follow its rules/examples for petty reasons. They cannot grasp that we don't believe and consider their god (whichever flavor it is) utterly fictional. I mean, what abaris quoted above could just as easily be:
"You figure yourselves better than Yoda."
"You've traded Thanos for peer pressure."
It holds just as much meaning to us. Same with argument via holy book quotes.
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