Monkeying Around in the Garden of Eden

[Little Rik]

When the student is ready to learn the teacher is also ready to teach.
 

I demonstrated I was ready to learn by going beyond my religious indoctrination with an open mind ...

You have taken the first step to going beyond your indoctrination by conversing with atheists ...

Just one further step Rik and that is to open your mind.

I am routing for you Rik, the wonders of the universe without a God await

Dog.  

There is a little problem about staying in the universe for too long.
It appear that this physical universe is finite.
A bit like living in a cage.
After so long that you live in a cage you tend to develop the canary syndrome where the canary is quite happy to stay in the cage.
I really don't want to develop this syndrome.
I hope you understand brother.  

[Redbeard The Pink]

OK, guys. This is where it starts. Join me in ignoring the last 4 posts. Responding will be tempting...don't do it. Together, we can defeat it, but we HAVE to work together.


Who's with me?

[Little Rik]

OK, guys. This is where it starts. Join me in ignoring the last 4 posts. Responding will be tempting...don't do it. Together, we can defeat it, but we HAVE to work together.


Who's with me?

An other terrible day at your clown show?
So sorry to hear that brother.  

[Aoi Magi]

So in other words, you cherry pick the parts you like, and the other parts you don't like are false and corrupted by man?

Not at all Mag.

I never pick anything from Hinduism.  
It is Hinduism that pick from yoga.
All I said is that what is left from yoga in Hinduism is the understanding that there is God and the believe in reincarnation.
All the rest is gone.

Got it now?  

I see, and what is your source for this claim? Any specific scripture or Vedas or anything which backs this up?

[Little Rik]

Not at all Mag.

I never pick anything from Hinduism.  
It is Hinduism that pick from yoga.
All I said is that what is left from yoga in Hinduism is the understanding that there is God and the believe in reincarnation.
All the rest is gone.

Got it now?  

I see, and what is your source for this claim? Any specific scripture or Vedas or anything which backs this up?

At the time of Shiva (about 7000 years ago according to what is handed down (again handed down is not the correct term either)) nobody write so it was passed from teacher to teacher to these days.
Shiva had 3 wives of different races therefore he didn't believe in the caste system but today those who say that they follow Shiva believe in the caste system.
It is therefore obvious that Hinduism does not follow Shiva teachings.
But that issue is not the only one.
Shiva was also against the dowry system.
Hinduism is in favor.
In Shiva philosophy there is only one God.
In Hinduism there are many.
You follow?  

[GUBU]

If our conscious is the mirror of "gods" why don't we know what he knows? and if it can get bigger and bigger do we surpass "God"?

Actually, did not the bible suggest that after eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge that we did know as god knows?

Genesis 3

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

It goes one further, it suggests that man knows as the gods know. By inserting the plural it acknowledges that yhwh was simply one of a pantheon of gods.

[SofaKingHigh]

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[Fake Messiah]

Actually, did not the bible suggest that after eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge that we did know as god knows?

Genesis 3

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

It goes one further, it suggests that man knows as the gods know. By inserting the plural it acknowledges that yhwh was simply one of a pantheon of gods.

Speaking of pantheon of gods: Hebrew myths came from Egyptians myths with a problem, that Egyptians were allowed to have pantheon of gods while Jews had to have only one. So they had to re-make them with all the magic but only one god.
So it starts with Atum, the creator from Lower Egypt - Heliopolis, had two kids Shu and Tefnut. Shu is identified as the principle of life and Tefnut is identified as the principle of moral order, a concept that the Egyptians referred to as Ma’at - same as with the two special trees in the Garden of Eden, the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In the myth the Atum (which they wrote in the Bible as Adam) is instructed to eat his daughter Tefnut aka moral order. So both myths have chief deity who created two fundamental principles, Life and Moral Order. In the Egyptian myth, Atum is told to eat of moral order but in Genesis, Adam is forbidden to eat of moral order. Difference lies because Hebrews were monotheists so idea that humans could become god-like contradicted the basic theological concept of biblical religion.

Hebrew story is actually an attack on the Egyptian doctrine of moral order leading to eternal life. It begins by transforming Life and Moral Order from deities into trees, eliminating the cannibalism of Atum eating his daughter. Then, Adam was forbidden to eat the fruit of Moral Order.
Next, Adam was told that not only wouldn’t he achieve eternal life if he ate of Moral Order but that he would actually die if he did eat it. To make sure god expelled Adam from the Garden before he could eat from the Tree of Life and live for eternity.

But of course there is a huge plot-hole in the Bible since as an all-powerful deity, he can reverse the cause and effect and return things as they were? Or why make Noah bring all those animals on board, why not just create new ones? As well as Tower of Babel - I mean God fearing large tower as if he was afraid humans will be able to peek from the windows when he's masturbating.

[Whateverist]

Comfort should stroke his banana.

Given the divine fit I assume it is considered a sacrament to do so as often as possible.