Can I just say, and I'm just being honest...

[Edwardo Piet]

This could have been so easy. It could have been Nym calling me an insincere hypocrite [she said it's hard to take either of us, me or EP, seriously (her effectively calling me insincere) after I had said "the difference is that I'm sincere and he's not", and she said it was "pot calling kettle" on my part (her effectively calling me a hypocrite)], me expressing my hurt and her simply being glad that I'd expressed my hurt without her telling me to not "act hurt" when I'm entitled to my hurt.

Sigh. This sadness can't last much more than a day. I hope. I do get sad for at least a day when I feel I've lost a friend. Friends mean a lot to me. The closer the friend the more I get hurt when I feel I have lost their friendship. I am responsible for that hurt that I feel and I'm entitled to express it and I know any true friend would want me to express my emotions honestly.

ETA:

That this:

And I can express my hurt without that meaning I don't want you to comment on. I absolutely do want honesty from you and you're getting honesty back. I am honestly hurt.

Was followed by this:

People are not going to walk around on eggshells to protect the feelings of others. You're in an adult world. You can either go around acting like a child who was just scolded or you can say "meh" and move on.

Just sums it up for me.

[Shell B]

CIJS, that it is absolutely fucking obnoxious thing to do to play goddamn bass-y pop music in the middle of the work day on your shitty surround sound system when you know your upstairs neighbor is an elderly woman and your next-door neighbors are both professionals who work from home. Save it for Saturday, you annoying fucking tools. I shouldn't have to play my own music to drown out yours. It's stupidly inconsiderate. How can you even afford to live here?! Gah!

[The Valkyrie]

[Edwardo Piet]

I fucking love The Young Ones.

LOL Rik is a fucking genius.

[brewer]

CIJS, that it is absolutely fucking obnoxious thing to do to play goddamn bass-y pop music in the middle of the work day on your shitty surround sound system when you know your upstairs neighbor is an elderly woman and your next-door neighbors are both professionals who work from home. Save it for Saturday, you annoying fucking tools. I shouldn't have to play my own music to drown out yours. It's stupidly inconsiderate. How can you even afford to live here?! Gah!

How does this guy know when I'm out driving and catches me at every stop light?

[Shell B]

They are seriously listening to a loop of Boys II Men and what sounds like some shitty new version of Creed. What year is it and how old are you? Please, for the love of fuck play something tolerable. I really don't want to get out of my seat and waste my time going over there, but this is ridiculous. Are they going through a breakup in the 90s?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm not bickering I'm just expressing my feelings and asking if Nym is glad that I was honest about them. She still hasn't answered. If she doesn't want to that's okay. I don't know what to think. She's called me insincere, a hypocrite, falsely accused me of intentionally guilt tripping, told me not to "act all hurt" when I was honestly expressing my hurt, told me she shouldn't have to walk on "eggshells" when I told her she didn't have to repeatedly, and more than once not answered when I asked her if she was glad I was honest with her about my feelings... and that's fine but I'm not bickering by expressing hurt.

I'm not bickering here: I'm just being hurt and expressing that hurt honestly and then getting the reaction telling me not to "act all hurt". So I'm certainly not bickering. I just got hurt, which is fine, and expressed that hurt honestly, which is fine, and then I just wanted to know if she was glad I was honest about my feelings, which is fine. This is all fine and honest.

I really don't understand all this reaction that when someone is honest about their feelings (me in this case) and someone else doesn't like it (Nym in this case) then according to them the person who was honest about their feelings can't deal with what they said even though it's they who seems to have a problem with them honestly expressing the feelings which they're entitled to express and even though the person who seems to have a problem with that honest emotional expression supposedly values honesty and yet not only seems to have a problem with it but repeatedly fails to answer the following question that would very directly clear things up: Are you glad I honestly expressed my feelings of hurt to you or not?

Well, I think you two are talking past each other, myself. I see fair points on both sides.

Forgive my intrusion ... I'll go on about my business.

[Joods]

Feel free to comment Thumpy. I'm just beyond done with it.

[Edwardo Piet]

Same.

ETA:

Furthermore this has got to be the longest sentence I myself personally have ever written:

I really don't understand all this reaction that when someone is honest about their feelings (me in this case) and someone else doesn't like it (Nym in this case) then according to them the person who was honest about their feelings can't deal with what they said even though it's they who seems to have a problem with them honestly expressing the feelings which they're entitled to express and even though the person who seems to have a problem with that honest emotional expression supposedly values honesty and yet not only seems to have a problem with it but repeatedly fails to answer the following question that would very directly clear things up: Are you glad I honestly expressed my feelings of hurt to you or not?

[Thumpalumpacus]

No, there's nothing I can say, really, that would make anything better -- silence is the best thing I can contribute, I think.