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EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Orochi Wrote: yes because no right winger on this site has ever said anything similar and been praised for it

did you note all the condemnation that comment got from other people on the left on this site

yup evil leftist all

Never said no right winger said anything similar numb nuts. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those who pretend the left is completely tolerant and progressive.

The reality is people on both sides of the spectrum can be as vitriolic.
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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 4, 2016 at 12:51 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Wow. What the actual fuck?!

Tolerant left strikes again.

If I was any more left I'd be slamming vodka in my eyesockets and marrying a turnip - doesn't mean I'd claim for a second leftists are all angels. Your cheap-shot game is weak, try harder.
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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 20, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm)Orochi Wrote: yes because no right winger on this site has ever said anything similar and been praised for it

did you note all the condemnation that comment got from other people on the left on this site

yup evil leftist all

Never said no right winger said anything similar numb nuts. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those who pretend the left is completely tolerant and progressive.

The reality is people on both sides of the spectrum can be as vitriolic.

not anywhere to the same degree nor number let's please stop this false equality nonsense

and way to attack a claim no one is making

and numb nuts what are you 10
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
Sorry, he's right. Doesn't matter if it's not to "the same degree", people on The Left so very commonly promote intolerance and censorship of opinions they don't like, and they do need to be called out on it too.

You can't call out one side and not the other, and I think it's decades of people doing just that which has landed us in the political climate we're in right now. People are just a bit sick of so many others saying provocative things (which they have every right to do), and then either deflecting or crying victim when they get clocked.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 21, 2016 at 5:09 am)Regina Wrote: Sorry, he's right. Doesn't matter if it's not to "the same degree", people on The Left so very commonly promote intolerance and censorship of opinions they don't like, and they do need to be called out on it too.

You can't call out one side and not the other, and I think it's decades of people doing just that which has landed us in the political climate we're in right now. People are just a bit sick of so many others saying provocative things (which they have every right to do), and then either deflecting or crying victim when they get clocked.

Yes it very much matters
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 21, 2016 at 5:36 am)Orochi Wrote: Yes it very much matters

Convince me why, not doing very much with that tbh

I'm all ears (or eyes, rather) and willing to listen
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 4, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Shell B Wrote: Another part of me knows that more lives are in danger by not taking refugees than are from taking them in. If you stop making the distinction that lives in your country are more important than lives in another country, the question disappears.

QFT.

(December 4, 2016 at 10:02 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(December 4, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Shell B Wrote: If you stop making the distinction that lives in your country are more important than lives in another country, the question disappears.

Why would anyone stop making that distinction?

Perhaps because it's fucking bigoted as fuck?

And the very opposite of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veil_of_ignorance

(December 6, 2016 at 7:25 am)alpha male Wrote:
(December 5, 2016 at 4:07 pm)Shell B Wrote: I don't care what kind of thing it is. It might be *news* to me because I'm from the U.S. so it's more likely that I would know the victim, but I don't find their lives to be more important. That's not a human thing to do. If you stuck an American and a Syrian in front of me and had a gun to both their heads, I would not care for the American more than the Syrian.

Yes, you would. You would likely care for a woman more than a man. A child more than an adult. An acquaintance more than a stranger. An American more than a Syrian.

Ah yes, projecting your own bigotry onto Shell. Duly noted.
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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 21, 2016 at 5:47 am)Regina Wrote:
(December 21, 2016 at 5:36 am)Orochi Wrote: Yes it very much matters

Convince me why, not doing very much with that tbh

I'm all ears (or eyes, rather) and willing to listen

Why what

Why i'm no where near concerned about the five guys shouting (the left ) to the seemingly deafening dirge of bigotry booming from a riot(the right) 

Sorry if you treat a leaking sink with the same consideration as a tsunami coming toward you all in miss guided attempt at seeming fair and balanced

sorry if you consider the destructive power of a nerf gun(the left) to that of atomic warhead (the right) all out of fairness

The principle is very similar to theocratic bullshits counter to the complaint atheist talk to much about religion. The idea that 2% of the human populous argue against religion when the other 98% won't shut up about it .Therefore out of fairness we should say both sides are being preachy and shoving it down throats.

Lastly I could care less weather your convinced really (I say that out of respecting you enough to be honest) frankly ultimately I blame this sort of thing on the human tendency for needless agnosticism
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 7, 2016 at 2:24 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I;m not sure I understand where you think this goes, Alpha.  I "care" more about americans (in any ludicrous situation you care to offer up ill pick another american over anyone else).  What does that have to do with refugees or Syria, though?  I;m not even sure what the risk is supposed to be.  Americans are the riskiest demographic -to other americans-...in america.  The "risk" of refugees is statistically irrelevant, and very nearly non-existent.  

Helping others doesn't -hurt- americans......it makes us great, you know...that thing we want to be again?

My bold.

Why?

(December 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Homegrown rapists commit a crime and it's just a tuesday, a refugee does it and it's the advance party of an invasion force.

QFT.
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RE: EU official's daughter raped and murdered by "refugee"
(December 21, 2016 at 6:15 am)Orochi Wrote:
(December 21, 2016 at 5:47 am)Regina Wrote: Convince me why, not doing very much with that tbh

I'm all ears (or eyes, rather) and willing to listen

Why what

Why i'm no where near concerned about the five guys shouting (the left ) to the seemingly deafening dirge of bigotry booming from a riot(the right) 

Sorry if you treat a leaking sink with the same consideration as a tsunami coming toward you all in miss guided attempt at seeming fair and balanced

sorry if you consider the destructive power of a nerf gun(the left) to that of atomic warhead (the right) all out of fairness

The principle is very similar to theocratic bullshits counter to the complaint atheist talk to much about religion. The idea that 2% of the human populous argue against religion when the other 98% won't shut up about it .Therefore out of fairness we should say both sides are being preachy and shoving it down throats.

Lastly I could care less weather your convinced really (I say that out of respecting you enough to be honest) frankly ultimately I blame this sort of thing on the human tendency for needless agnosticism
Ok I understand that, but there's a difference between giving more concern to one side and then just focusing solely on it while ignoring the other. I think that's harmful, given that it's reasonable to assume now that the far-Left and far-Right actually play into eachother, by both being closed to open conversation. That's why I criticise both, I can't just focus on one.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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