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So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
#31
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
Yeah, Drumpfucks are real brave when 4 of them are beating up a black woman.  I don't have much hope for them standing up to the police.
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#32
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
Hehe, I'm imagining the Trump Lives Matter protests now.
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#33
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 13, 2016 at 10:23 am)alpha male Wrote:
Quote:I'm pretty sure the US tries to influence other countries' elections. As long as Russia didn't actually hack the voting system, but rather just released damaging emails that Hillary and her supporters actually wrote, I don't see the issue.

Obama overtly spoke against Brexit.


two wrong don't make right and speaking about something is not the same as illegally hacking a government site




(December 12, 2016 at 6:07 pm)Gemini Wrote: I think there's 0 chance that this could actually happen, but I'll be damned if I don't fantasize about it happening every day until they vote.

You fantasize about civil war? I'm generally not an alarmist, but if the presidency is taken from Trump, the violence that you guys currently imagine from Trump supporters could become reality, and then some.

So we shouldn't shoot down a false election winner because psychos will get angry so were to be at the mercy of a group of fanatics

(December 13, 2016 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(December 13, 2016 at 10:34 am)Aegon Wrote: Well the hacking is what they're being accused of, so.
Quote:I said hack the voting system. The hacking allegations I'm seeing is of DNC, Podesta etc. emails. That doesn't bother me.

its still a crime of course doesn't bother you if it won Hilary the election though  you would be fuming



Quote:Civil war? Really?

If you take away the presidency from the side that is most heavily armed...yeah, it could happen.

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#34
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 12:26 am)Orochi Wrote: So we shouldn't shoot down a false election winner because psychos will get angry so were to be at the mercy of a group of fanatics

How is Trump a "false election winner"?
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#35
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 9:46 am)alpha male Wrote:
(December 16, 2016 at 12:26 am)Orochi Wrote: So we shouldn't shoot down a false election winner because psychos will get angry so were to be at the mercy of a group of fanatics

How is Trump a "false election winner"?

Orochi can answer for him/her-self. I don't think Trump is a 'false election winner'. He won. I got it.

But are you really sanguine about Russia's alleged efforts to interfere and to steer the outcome of the election? Seriously? I don't believe that you or any other person who gives a damn about this country is ok with that. This isn't a partisan thing for me, though I am horrified at the prospect of four years of Trump in the White House. If Hillary had won, followed by these same allegations that some foreign power had perhaps interfered for her benefit, I'd be pissed off -- just as I am now. This isn't about ousting Trump. This is about shoring up our national cyber-security and protecting our right to conduct our national elections without such interference.

That Trump and his team are so eager to put this behind us speaks volumes to me about what we have in store for us.
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#36
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 10:56 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(December 16, 2016 at 9:46 am)alpha male Wrote: How is Trump a "false election winner"?

Orochi can answer for him/her-self. I don't think Trump is a 'false election winner'. He won. I got it.

But are you really sanguine about Russia's alleged efforts to interfere and to steer the outcome of the election? Seriously? I don't believe that you or any other person who gives a damn about this country is ok with that. This isn't a partisan thing for me, though I am horrified at the prospect of four years of Trump in the White House. If Hillary had won, followed by these same allegations that some foreign power had perhaps interfered for her benefit, I'd be pissed off -- just as I am now. This isn't about ousting Trump. This is about shoring up our national cyber-security and protecting our right to conduct our national elections without such interference.

That Trump and his team are so eager to put this behind us speaks volumes to me about what we have in store for us.


I'm not sanguine about Obama's state security apparatus failure to protect HIS OWN CRONIES from this debacle.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#37
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 10:56 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Orochi can answer for him/her-self. I don't think Trump is a 'false election winner'. He won. I got it.

But are you really sanguine about Russia's alleged efforts to interfere and to steer the outcome of the election? Seriously? I don't believe that you or any other person who gives a damn about this country is ok with that. This isn't a partisan thing for me, though I am horrified at the prospect of four years of Trump in the White House. If Hillary had won, followed by these same allegations that some foreign power had perhaps interfered for her benefit, I'd be pissed off -- just as I am now. This isn't about ousting Trump. This is about shoring up our national cyber-security and protecting our right to conduct our national elections without such interference.

That Trump and his team are so eager to put this behind us speaks volumes to me about what we have in store for us.

I say let them be sanguine. All they're doing is proving that they're massive hypocrites and that they don't give a damn about the democratic process. All they care about is winning.

So the next time one of them tries to brag about how American they are, we can point out that they are actually as un-American as one can get.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#38
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 9:46 am)alpha male Wrote:
(December 16, 2016 at 12:26 am)Orochi Wrote: So we shouldn't shoot down a false election winner because psychos will get angry so were to be at the mercy of a group of fanatics

How is Trump a "false election winner"?

Because he lost by three million votes. Because in order to get him even that close the RNC used a vetting procedure which illegally disenfranchised 7,000,000 US citizens. Becquse there were two standards of election with free, fair and democratic being one standard used in states where the democratic party ran government and gerrymandered, discriminatory and unfree being the standard in republican states (these states falling far below the criteria that US governments of both shades set to accept elections in other countries as fair).

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#39
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 11:55 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Because he lost by three million votes.

No, he won by 74 votes.
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#40
RE: So Now This Is Getting Interesting.
(December 16, 2016 at 12:24 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(December 16, 2016 at 11:55 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Because he lost by three million votes.

No, he won by 74 votes.


Yeah, the system was rigged against me and my fellow high population states.  He 'won' under the system he himself had previously called corrupt.  Trump is an asshole undeserving of any respect who I only hope we manage to survive.
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