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Poll: Was Hitler objectively bad?
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Was Hitler objectively bad?
#91
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 17, 2010 at 2:37 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:Though, as it happens, I am also superior.


Of course you are dear,and don't you let anyone tell you anything different.

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What fun would there be to tell her otherwise?

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#92
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 17, 2010 at 1:43 am)ib.me.ub Wrote: Clearly there is a point Minimalist. Apparently, the author would like you to deduce what you think would have happened if Hitler was assasinated!

It only need be a simple answer ;-)


According to a rather good documentary I watched recently called "Hitlers bodyguards"

The allies were dead set against assasinating Adolf as he was doing such a great job of fucking up the German war effort.
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#93
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 17, 2010 at 2:28 am)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: Unlike the pseudoarguments of you pseudointellectuals, these blanket statements have the property of being correct and meaningful.

Ah, self-importance. A shite *ahem* sight to behold. Wink

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#94
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
Quote:what you think would have happened if Hitler was assasinated!


Most likely Himmler and the SS would have come out on top. I find that hard to see as much of an improvement.

The whole question is like saying "suppose Pickett's charge had succeeded?" Interesting to speculate but impossible to know.
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#95
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 16, 2010 at 10:47 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote:
Quote:But then again, what would have happened if, early on, he had been assassinated, and somebody actually competent managed to take over?

The world could quite possibly have been a better place. The basic idea of a single world governmnet is a good one, but Hitler decided to kill millions of people for some reason.

Way to totally miss the point of the question; the fact was, if Hitler was assassinated, many of the people in line were as anti-Semitic as Hitler was, and probably much less likely to flippantly declare wars on America and Russia while still trying to conquer Europe. If you're going to talk about Hitler, it should do you very good to actually do some research on him as opposed to just parroting half-remembered high school history lessons. I would recommend Ian Kershaw's Biography and Robert Evans' Third Reich Trilogy. Or if you don't want to go through five thousand-page volumes on the Third Reich, TVTropes has a few surprisingly informative pages on the details of the Third Reich that your history teacher was too busy trying to wrap everything up to talk about.
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#96
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 16, 2010 at 11:07 pm)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: The allies killed millions of people in a war-mongering crusade for democracy.

I don't know about America, but I know that Chameberlain was eager to avoid war. Ever heard of appeasement?

Quote:It took America and Britain to make it a world war, they vastly escalated it, carried on a war of aggression neither Japan nor Germany never wanted, propped up a Communist regime.

They propped up a Communist regime because it was necessary, or at least extremely helpful, to make an alliance with it.
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#97
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
(October 17, 2010 at 12:58 am)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: This isn't a problem with atheists, it's a problem with retards who believe in morality.

You are an error theorist I presume? Error theory is simply naive, Morality does exist, it's only a matter of whether or not morality is subjective or objective.

Certain definitions of morality are quite simply true, Desirism's definition of morality is a relational property, and relational properties do in fact exist, so in that instance morality is real and objective. Similarly for subjectivism, subjective views using moral language do exist, thus morality (as defined by subjectivists) exists, it is simply not a matter or moral propositions being true or false, rather morality becomes representational.

In either case, the moral intuition does point to some existent value.

This is why error theory is false, it is correct in assuming traditional definitions of morality are false, because Gods, intrinsic values, social contracts, impartial observers etc do not exist, but it is wrong in assuming that there are no alternatives.

Quote: What's more, your magical sky daddy existing wouldn't somehow make morality true; it would just mean there is a vindictive superman who will punish you if you do something he doesn't like.

That's typically how theistic morality is defined, If a God is the arbiter of morality the morality is whatever he judges it to be. It depends on how you define morality.

Quote:"I don't like the consequences this theory entails, ergo the theory must be wrong." Too bad the Universe doesn't exist to make you feel important.

Smile Totally agree.

(October 17, 2010 at 12:05 am)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: Your confusing superiority with misanthropy. Though, as it happens, I am also superior.

I am yet to see any evidence of that, so excuse my skepticism.
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#98
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
Yeah, not caring about your bullshit.
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#99
RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
That's either fantastic extension of your Nihilism, or you're a troll.
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RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
A troll would actually reply to your stupid shit. I just don't care what you think. *ignore*
"Philosophy would do well to desist from issuing any further injunctions about the need to re-establish the meaningfulness of existence, the purposefulness of life, or mend the shattered concord between man and nature. It should strive to be more than a sop to the pathetic twinge of human self-esteem. Nihilism is not an existential quandary but a speculative opportunity." - Ray Brassier
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