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Islam protectors
#31
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 4:30 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: From what I have seen it's never Islam's fault, even if it is, It actually isn't.

ARRGGGGGGGGG

Yes and no, but that "Yes and no" apply to all humans worldwide.

The followers of Islam CAN be blamed for any violence they case when using the holy books they use such as the Koran and Hadiths, but the same can be, AND SHOULD BE said of anyone of any religion.

But no, we should not vilify individuals on a planet of 7 billion. 

Just like a KKK member should be blamed if they murder a black person and use the bible to do it. Just like a Hindu should be blamed if they murder a non Hindu for killing a cow.

But that does not justify assuming the guilt of an individual before they have done anything wrong. You can attack claims and bad behaviors of individuals or sects, without blanket assumptions of guilt of others.

Fair point.  My argument is that if your chosen religion advocates violence towards those of other faiths and apostates. When someone follows it to the letter, you cannot then be upset if when people use a broad brush to describe your religion a bit of paint gets on you.

Now if I use your KKK example would it be fair if say a KKK member burns a cross somewhere and then someone says "Well don't be so biased, Not all KKK members are like that, even thou they clearly have a long history of just that?
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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#32
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 5:04 pm)JackRussell Wrote: The only Islam protector you need where I live is a pig sandwich and a beer. Just sayin'

I don't trust anyone who won't dig into a pork-chop sammich.

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#33
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 3:08 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 1:36 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: even outside of Ramadan, the Muslims, well at least the Egyptian ones, were loathe to hydrate.  Israeli forces exploited this during the 6 Day War and essentially ordered their troops to drink upwards of a gallon of water/day during the conflict.  One of many ways the Egyptian army  effed itself.

Why wouldn't they hydrate? Are they so used to saving water?

Well, lugging around equipment during June in the Mideast would up the troops water intake.  If the logistics corps wasn't prepared for that battlefield performance will suffer.
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#34
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 7:19 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: Why do SJWs, feminists and liberals support Islam? Islam is the opposite for what those groups stand for. And I don't buy their justification that it's "another culture".

They honestly need to go to a area where islam is worshiped at it's most extreme like in Saudi Arabia or  Isis held territories. 
But the thing is there is friendly Islamist's that can live in the modern day westernized society the problem is how the book 
and religion is being taught. There is friendly sects and there is the violent sect the SJW's need a hard wake up call and see what the violent side really is
before protecting it.
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#35
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 5:52 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote: ARRGGGGGGGGG

Yes and no, but that "Yes and no" apply to all humans worldwide.

The followers of Islam CAN be blamed for any violence they case when using the holy books they use such as the Koran and Hadiths, but the same can be, AND SHOULD BE said of anyone of any religion.

But no, we should not vilify individuals on a planet of 7 billion. 

Just like a KKK member should be blamed if they murder a black person and use the bible to do it. Just like a Hindu should be blamed if they murder a non Hindu for killing a cow.

But that does not justify assuming the guilt of an individual before they have done anything wrong. You can attack claims and bad behaviors of individuals or sects, without blanket assumptions of guilt of others.

Fair point.  My argument is that if your chosen religion advocates violence towards those of other faiths and apostates. When someone follows it to the letter, you cannot then be upset if when people use a broad brush to describe your religion a bit of paint gets on you.

Now if I use your KKK example would it be fair if say a KKK member burns a cross somewhere and then someone says "Well don't be so biased, Not all KKK members are like that, even thou they clearly have a long history of just that?

"If your religion advocates violence"

STOP THERE,

Again, don't focus on 1 label because all religions are capable of violence. Not because all humans are violent, most are not. All religions are capable of violence because humans have the potential to be violent and will use religion as the excuse.

Our species behaviors are not in clubs or labels or holy people or holy writings, those are simply things humans think where their morality comes from.
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#36
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 6:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 5:52 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Fair point.  My argument is that if your chosen religion advocates violence towards those of other faiths and apostates. When someone follows it to the letter, you cannot then be upset if when people use a broad brush to describe your religion a bit of paint gets on you.

Now if I use your KKK example would it be fair if say a KKK member burns a cross somewhere and then someone says "Well don't be so biased, Not all KKK members are like that, even thou they clearly have a long history of just that?

"If your religion advocates violence"

STOP THERE,

Again, don't focus on 1 label because all religions are capable of violence. Not because all humans are violent, most are not. All religions are capable of violence because humans have the potential to be violent and will use religion as the excuse.

Our species behaviors are not in clubs or labels or holy people or holy writings, those are simply things humans think where their morality comes from.

Why stop there?  It (The Quran) does, It's pretty clear about how to deal with apostates and non-believers  and it isn't a handshake.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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#37
RE: Islam protectors
Feminism isn't a monolith neither is SJ so your question is a fallacy of composition . To the question of protecting Christian culture . Not at the expense of everyone else.

Oh yes and for thousands of years Christianity was just height of cultural tolerance
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#38
RE: Islam protectors
(July 5, 2017 at 7:30 am)Die Atheistin Wrote: Still, freedom is something relative. If someone has to much freedom, someone else will have to little. Muslims want freedom to opress, by giving them freedom you are taking someone elses.

You're free to come back and discuss this.
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#39
RE: Islam protectors
Were not giving them freedom to oppress .And what's the solution oppress them back......
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#40
RE: Islam protectors
Islam protector sounds like something you can wear
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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