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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:02 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 5:32 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 20, 2023 at 5:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Going to ignore this question forever, @Lek? I guess if he could either annilate me or give me complete peace I would! Joking aside, we choose to sin. I guess God knows that, given the opportunity, we will choose sin. That's not saying at every point we will, but we still will. Don't take my word for trying to understand God because honestly, I don't know why. God does what he does.
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If that’s the case, can you explain why God deliberately deludes people into sin for the express purpose of damning them?
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:03 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 5:32 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess if he could either annilate me or give me complete peace I would! Joking aside, we choose to sin. I guess God knows that, given the opportunity, we will choose sin. That's not saying at every point we will, but we still will. Don't take my word for trying to understand God because honestly, I don't know why. God does what he does.
And yet what God "does" is indistinguishable from "natural law".
Rather than make rationalizations for God's actions and inaction, wouldn't it be easier to realize that either God is nothing like what your religion claims, or there isn't a God at all?
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 6:03 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: (July 20, 2023 at 5:32 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess if he could either annilate me or give me complete peace I would! Joking aside, we choose to sin. I guess God knows that, given the opportunity, we will choose sin. That's not saying at every point we will, but we still will. Don't take my word for trying to understand God because honestly, I don't know why. God does what he does.
And yet what God "does" is indistinguishable from "natural law".
Rather than make rationalizations for God's actions and inaction, wouldn't it be easier to realize that either God is nothing like what your religion claims, or there isn't a God at all? Natural law is totally impartial. God is anything but that.
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:16 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 20, 2023 at 6:03 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: And yet what God "does" is indistinguishable from "natural law".
Rather than make rationalizations for God's actions and inaction, wouldn't it be easier to realize that either God is nothing like what your religion claims, or there isn't a God at all? Natural law is totally impartial. God is anything but that.
That much is certainly true - God is the ultimate partisan.
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:21 pm
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The worst murderers love it, and boy howdy are those guys representative of humanity.
How’s about the rest of us, who arent murderers and don’t love murdering?
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 6:56 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 5:32 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 20, 2023 at 5:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Going to ignore this question forever, @Lek? I guess if he could either annilate me or give me complete peace I would! Joking aside, we choose to sin. I guess God knows that, given the opportunity, we will choose sin. That's not saying at every point we will, but we still will. Don't take my word for trying to understand God because honestly, I don't know why. God does what he does.
A lame joke and a dodge. No real thought give to the question. Just a pat answer, probably spoon fed to you by you medicine man. It's all good though, I expected no better.
As for choosing to sin, please do speak for yourself. I have never chosen to sin. In fact, I have never sinned. If you're choosing to, well, you do you. Mmmm-kay?
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 7:07 pm
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The absurd basis for christianity is finding a dislike for something and making it a sin for anyone else to like it.
Some goat herder doesn't like figs. "I decree god says it's a sin to eat figs. Therefore, thou and thou and thou shalt not eat figs."
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 7:12 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 7:07 pm)Tomato Wrote: The absurd basis for christianity is finding a dislike for something and making it a sin for anyone else to like it.
Some goat herder doesn't like figs. "I decree god says it's a sin to eat figs. Therefore, thou and thou and thou shalt not eat figs." Oh well. Nothing much else to say.
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 7:14 pm
(July 20, 2023 at 7:07 pm)Tomato Wrote: The absurd basis for christianity is finding a dislike for something and making it a sin for anyone else to like it.
Some goat herder doesn't like figs. "I decree god says it's a sin to eat figs. Therefore, thou and thou and thou shalt not eat figs."
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RE: I literally cannot avoid sinning; so, why...
July 20, 2023 at 7:17 pm
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(July 20, 2023 at 7:12 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 20, 2023 at 7:07 pm)Tomato Wrote: The absurd basis for christianity is finding a dislike for something and making it a sin for anyone else to like it.
Some goat herder doesn't like figs. "I decree god says it's a sin to eat figs. Therefore, thou and thou and thou shalt not eat figs." Oh well. Nothing much else to say.
Well, you could try explaining the conflict between your view that sin is a choice and the scriptural evidence that God forces people to sin. You could say that, if you’re so inclined.
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