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Sin and death
#11
RE: Sin and death
(October 20, 2023 at 4:23 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Animal death came about because of the sin of Adam, seems to be the general xtian view.

And Adam's still at it, wiping out whole species now.
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#12
RE: Sin and death
At least we're consistent.
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#13
RE: Sin and death
(October 20, 2023 at 7:47 am)LinuxGal Wrote:
(October 20, 2023 at 4:23 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Animal death came about because of the sin of Adam, seems to be the general xtian view.

And Adam's still at it, wiping out whole species now.

If you go by the parameters of that myth, Adam has to be a victim himself logically speaking. 

God made a rigged bet with Lucifer that neither Adam or Eve had knowledge of or any say in. They were basically poker chips in a rigged bet.
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#14
RE: Sin and death
(October 20, 2023 at 5:05 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Adam sinned because of Eve, who sinned because of the devil.  All suffering can ultimately be laid at the door of Satan.  Such was the xtian view I held to back in the day.

Not really. Humans have to take some (or a lot of) responsibility for the way things turned out. It's our world. We made it this way.
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#15
RE: Sin and death
We've been learning on the job. Sure, though, we humans probably should take credit for the world as it is because we have made it this way. Somebody had to do something, the world was dogshit at factory settings.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#16
RE: Sin and death
(October 20, 2023 at 9:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We've been learning on the job.  Sure, though, we humans probably should take credit for the world as it is because we have made it this way.  Somebody had to do something, the world was dogshit at factory settings.

It is God's job to corrupt us. We are obligated to do something about it. Just like the Tower of Babylon. When God made everyone confused, we didn't automatically just give up and stop trying to make progress.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#17
RE: Sin and death
A simpletons appeal to fantasy, and for what? To assert a degenerate god.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#18
RE: Sin and death
(October 20, 2023 at 11:00 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: A simpletons appeal to fantasy, and for what?  To assert a degenerate god.

Well yeah, people should know God is a piece of shit. That's why people should believe in Him, so that He doesn't fuck them up.
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#19
RE: Sin and death
Divinity-as-protection racket.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#20
RE: Sin and death
You wouldn't believe the sort of evil that amoebas are capable of.

Also Toxoplasma, a common parasite in mammals, Toxoplasma gondii is sometimes called the “mind control” parasite:
It can infect the brains of animals and mess with their behavior in ways that may kill the host but help ensure the parasite's spread.
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