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Lying to your children
#41
RE: Lying to your children
Frodo's a big boy, we trade jabs. Don't worry yourself too much about it.

What would the distinction between reality and ultimate reality be? Are we attempting to smuggle in our self-edited definition of god? Do I need to link Webster's again?
(there's actually a name for what you're doing here, I'll rate you up if you can figure it out)
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#42
RE: Lying to your children
(September 28, 2011 at 5:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Frodo's a big boy, we trade jabs. Don't worry yourself too much about it.

What would the distinction between reality and ultimate reality be? Are we attempting to smuggle in our self-edited definition of god? Do I need to link Webster's again?
(there's actually a name for what you're doing here, I'll rate you up if you can figure it out)

Human thoughts are real. Human are real. But guess which are more real. Which depends on the other?

In other words, there is a hierachy of reality - and one that stands above all others - Ultimate Reality. It's quite simple really.

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#43
RE: Lying to your children
Could I see the readings from your realometer before I make a decision as to where I stand?
(sup bud, you don't want the rep point offered?)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#44
RE: Lying to your children
(September 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Could I see the readings from your realometer before I make a decision as to where I stand?
(sup bud, you don't want the rep point offered?)

How do you mean? Can you be clearer?
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#45
RE: Lying to your children
(September 29, 2011 at 4:10 am)Zaki Aminu Wrote:
(September 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Could I see the readings from your realometer before I make a decision as to where I stand?
(sup bud, you don't want the rep point offered?)

How do you mean? Can you be clearer?

You seem to require an awful lot of explanations for statements that, to the rest of us, are very clear Dodgy

This is probably why most people think that your motives for being here are less than genuine.
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#46
RE: Lying to your children
(September 29, 2011 at 4:20 am)Darwinian Wrote:
(September 29, 2011 at 4:10 am)Zaki Aminu Wrote:
(September 28, 2011 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Could I see the readings from your realometer before I make a decision as to where I stand?
(sup bud, you don't want the rep point offered?)

How do you mean? Can you be clearer?

You seem to require an awful lot of explanations for statements that, to the rest of us, are very clear Dodgy

This is probably why most people think that your motives for being here are less than genuine.

I can't help it if I have difficulty understanding something that is said, can I? The only remedy I know of is to politely ask for clarification. Why is that seen as "dodgy" or "not genuine" by anyone? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't polite discussion that can lead to learning from each other the whole point of these forums? If not, then I'm in the wrong and will quickly apologise and leave.

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#47
RE: Lying to your children
(September 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: ...there is a hierachy of reality...

How do you quantify what is more real than something else?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#48
RE: Lying to your children
(September 29, 2011 at 6:07 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(September 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: ...there is a hierachy of reality...

How do you quantify what is more real than something else?

Which do you think is more real: the carbon atom or carbon compounds?

Put in another way: Can carbon exist even if there were no carbon compounds? On the other hand, can carbon compounds exist if they were no carbon?

That is how I determine what is more real than the other.
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#49
RE: Lying to your children
So, because a brick wall can't exist without bricks, but bricks can exist without a brick wall, a brick is more real? Sounds like new age drivel that is attempting to say something but is really saying nothing at all.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#50
RE: Lying to your children
This guy is a waste of time...seen THIS road before. Psycho babble ..meh Dodgy
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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