(July 25, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Drich Wrote:

(July 24, 2015 at 10:05 pm)Chas Wrote: The ancestors of snakes appear to have had legs.  Modern snakes do not.

And your links don't support your contention. Try again.

modern snakes do not have legs.. Of course not. Even the Genesis account tells us why. Even so, in the nature.com article the snake with legs was still identified as a 'snake' first, with the qualifier 'with legs.' So Despie how you cheese might want to split 'hairs,' Genesis AND the Nature.com article are speaking of the same animal.

As far as 'my links' are concern I disagree. So now your turn. You Try again.

Let us know when a snake has a larynx, dipshit.

(July 25, 2015 at 8:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Drippy hates facts as a vampire hates sunlight.

His unfamiliarity with them is startling.

Why are we bothering with this topic at all? The proposal that snakes once had legs is nothing new. We all know Genesis (and the entire bible) is sh*t. The first two chapters have conflicting creation stories! Adam and Eve didn't exist, and the snake was never able to speak any form of human language, and the whole thing is an attempt of primitive humans to think up how humans might have gotten started. So why spend any time on it?

(July 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Why are we bothering with this topic at all? The proposal that snakes once had legs is nothing new. We all know Genesis (and the entire bible) is sh*t. The first two chapters have conflicting creation stories! Adam and Eve didn't exist, and the snake was never able to speak any form of human language, and the whole thing is an attempt of primitive humans to think up how humans might have gotten started. So why spend any time on it?

I for one am curious to see how far down the well of stupidity Drich will slide, and so I approve this thread.

Dritch,

To be very clear:

The Bible:  Snakes once had legs.  When they did have legs, a snake (or the one snake existing then---it isn't clear) spoke in full sentences and tempted Eve.  Eve took the bait, and god punished the snake by taking away it's legs.

The Current State of Scientific Knowledge:  Snakes do not and never had the ability to talk let alone reason well enough to tempt anyone.  Snakes once had legs, but they did not suddenly lose them.  The legs gradually went away.  The legs in the fossil would not hold the snake off the ground.  They were legs on the decline.  Snakes lost their legs long before humans developed so no human ever saw let alone talked to a snake with legs.

The Contradictions:  Snakes are not thinking talking animals though the Bible says they were.   Snakes did not suddenly lose their legs though the Bible says they did.  There are many species of snakes though the Bible implies there was only one.  Legged snakes and humans never shared the planet at the same moment in time.

Verdict:  The Bible is cannot possibly be describing a real event.  The snake/leg story in the Bible is a just-so story that happens to contain a grain of truth, that grain being that snakes once had legs. Everything else in the story contradicts what we know about snakes.

(July 30, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Dritch,

To be very clear:

The Bible:  Snakes once had legs.  When they did have legs, a snake (or the one snake existing then---it isn't clear) spoke in full sentences and tempted Eve.  Eve took the bait, and god punished the snake by taking away it's legs.

The Current State of Scientific Knowledge:  Snakes do not and never had the ability to talk let alone reason well enough to tempt anyone.  Snakes once had legs, but they did not suddenly lose them.  The legs gradually went away.  The legs in the fossil would not hold the snake off the ground.  They were legs on the decline.  Snakes lost their legs long before humans developed so no human ever saw let alone talked to a snake with legs.

The Contradictions:  Snakes are not thinking talking animals though the Bible says they were.   Snakes did not suddenly lose their legs though the Bible says they did.  There are many species of snakes though the Bible implies there was only one.  Legged snakes and humans never shared the planet at the same moment in time.

Verdict:  The Bible is cannot possibly be describing a real event.  The snake/leg story in the Bible is a just-so story that happens to contain a grain of truth, that grain being that snakes once had legs. Everything else in the story contradicts what we know about snakes.

Perhaps you missed the snake-as-ventriloquist-dummy explanation, courtesy of Drich's ass.  That should set you straight. 

(July 30, 2015 at 5:17 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(July 30, 2015 at 5:09 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Dritch,

To be very clear:

The Bible:  Snakes once had legs.  When they did have legs, a snake (or the one snake existing then---it isn't clear) spoke in full sentences and tempted Eve.  Eve took the bait, and god punished the snake by taking away it's legs.

The Current State of Scientific Knowledge:  Snakes do not and never had the ability to talk let alone reason well enough to tempt anyone.  Snakes once had legs, but they did not suddenly lose them.  The legs gradually went away.  The legs in the fossil would not hold the snake off the ground.  They were legs on the decline.  Snakes lost their legs long before humans developed so no human ever saw let alone talked to a snake with legs.

The Contradictions:  Snakes are not thinking talking animals though the Bible says they were.   Snakes did not suddenly lose their legs though the Bible says they did.  There are many species of snakes though the Bible implies there was only one.  Legged snakes and humans never shared the planet at the same moment in time.

Verdict:  The Bible is cannot possibly be describing a real event.  The snake/leg story in the Bible is a just-so story that happens to contain a grain of truth, that grain being that snakes once had legs. Everything else in the story contradicts what we know about snakes.

Perhaps you missed the snake-as-ventriloquist-dummy explanation, courtesy of Drich's ass.  That should set you straight. 

Fun!  But why would god punish the dummy instead of the ventriloquist, or did the ventriloquist fool the omniscient creator? 

(July 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(July 30, 2015 at 5:17 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Perhaps you missed the snake-as-ventriloquist-dummy explanation, courtesy of Drich's ass.  That should set you straight. 

Fun!  By why would god punish the dummy instead of the ventriloquist, or did the ventriloquist fool the omniscient creator? 

Your question exceeds my poor powers of understanding.  I'm still trying to figure out how anyone over the age of eight could take the Genesis accounts seriously as anything other than myth.

(July 30, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(July 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Fun!  By why would god punish the dummy instead of the ventriloquist, or did the ventriloquist fool the omniscient creator? 

Your question exceeds my poor powers of understanding.  I'm still trying to figure out how anyone over the age of eight could take the Genesis accounts seriously as anything other than myth.

Hell, it's even in the fucking name. Creation myth

(July 30, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Iroscato Wrote:

(July 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Why are we bothering with this topic at all? The proposal that snakes once had legs is nothing new. We all know Genesis (and the entire bible) is sh*t. The first two chapters have conflicting creation stories! Adam and Eve didn't exist, and the snake was never able to speak any form of human language, and the whole thing is an attempt of primitive humans to think up how humans might have gotten started. So why spend any time on it?

I for one am curious to see how far down the well of stupidity Drich will slide, and so I approve this thread.

The biblical fairy tale doesn't have squat to do with how humans got started.  The fairy tale is about how the Jews got started.  The entire thing is based on the Jewish line and has nothing to do with the rest of humanity.  When you fully understand that you will realize why you think it is sh*t.