The newest fad seems to be "You're taking away my right to oppress others".

Yes, I fucking am. It's called being civilised. If these people could step out of their own bubble for one second and imagine what it's like to be in a persecuted minority, they would understand. Instead they pretend to be a persecuted majority.

(August 4, 2015 at 1:21 am)Aristocatt Wrote: The only issue with your hypothesis is that the planets population is not actuall declining, it is increasing.

You are misunderstanding population growth with the rate of population growth.  The latter is declining.  It was exponential, now it is not.

Haha ok, I is not my hypothesis it is a fact. Sorry.

Again, here are my sources. If you wish for more let me know.
(hopefully I did the link adding correctly)

CNN’s own Fareed Zakaria show, I think it is called GPS, did a segment on this issue about two or three weeks ago. You can look it up and find it. I was able to only find the transcripts. It is about mid, to a little over, page
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1506/14/fzgps.01.html


Yale Daily News
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2008/02/27...d-species/

http://us.wow.com/searchs_pt=source2&s_i...%20decline

New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/magazi...d=all&_r=0#


Time Magazine: On American women Low birth rate.
http://time.com/3617927/pregnancy-birthrates/

New York Times: American women Low birth
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/us/us-....html?_r=0

New York Times: German Population
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/world/...-drop.html

United Nations: World Population Prospects
http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/po...ndex.shtml

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/po...014/en.pdf

The Economist: Japan Decline
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/20...demography

BBC: Japan Decline
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30653825

World Watch Institute
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/561

The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...08/377735/

(August 4, 2015 at 7:53 am)robvalue Wrote: The newest fad seems to be "You're taking away my right to oppress others".

Yes, I fucking am. It's called being civilised. If these people could step out of their own bubble for one second and imagine what it's like to be in a persecuted minority, they would understand. Instead they pretend to be a persecuted majority.

  WOO HOOOO  . . .YES, YES THANK YOU. FINALLY THE TRUTH, AND IT SHELL SET YOU FREE    

Umm hahah how is that civilised???!!!

The people do know what it is like to be persecuted because you are taking away their rights. And like anyone, even you, want their rights, (in their case their rights back).

Oh so you can and are are taking the rights from one group ! So You can treat one group of Americans lower or different from each other!  Thus, you are not at all for a democratic nation of the rule by the people, equality or equal rights but, for elitism and oligarchy.


    HAHAHAHAHA YEEEESSSS!!!!!    

ITT we find out giving rights is actually taking away rights and granting freedoms taking away freedoms.

Do you rant about parking spots for disabled people too?

(August 4, 2015 at 7:49 am)Brian37 Wrote: No argument to be had. The majority 5 were correct,. Only a childish xenophobic asshole would object to the concept of equal protection under the law. The same bigoted doomsday arguments were made against women wanting the right to vote. Same arguments were made to defend segregation and bans on interracial marriage. Bigotry is not an argument.

I agree completely !

(August 4, 2015 at 9:00 am)Ace Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 7:53 am)robvalue Wrote: The newest fad seems to be "You're taking away my right to oppress others".

Yes, I fucking am. It's called being civilised. If these people could step out of their own bubble for one second and imagine what it's like to be in a persecuted minority, they would understand. Instead they pretend to be a persecuted majority.

  WOO HOOOO  . . .YES, YES THANK YOU. FINALLY THE TRUTH.    

Umm hahah how is that civilised???!!!

The people do know what it is like because you are taking away their rights. And like anyone, even you, want their rights, (in their case back).

The homosexual community has done a Coup d'état of the western world.

Oh so you can and are are taking the rights from one group to give to another! So You can treat one group of Americans lower or different from each other by giving one rights to one group and taking away rights of another!  Thus, you are not at all for not for a democratic nation of the rule of the people, equality or equal rights but, for elitism and oligarchy.

Also you do know that if you conspire against the government ,Under the law you are considered a traitor and a seditionest.

United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Congress has, at times, passed statutes creating related offenses that punish conduct which undermines the government or the national security, such as sedition in the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, or espionage and sedition in the 1917 Espionage Act, which do not require the testimony of two witnesses and have a much broader definition than Article Three treason

    HAHAHAHAHA YEEEESSSS!!!!!    

Ace, you are a level of stupid I can barely begin to describe. The extent to which you have missed the point is embarrassing to me as a human.

Nobody has a right to oppress others. You can't take away a right that does not exist. If a person thinks they DO have the right to oppress someone, then that person is a bigot. Being a bigot does not give someone special rights to oppress the rights of others.

(August 4, 2015 at 7:50 am)Neimenovic Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 7:47 am)Ace Wrote: Population is an issue because of the debate both  Aristocatt and Anima are having. Aristocatt's argument is based on the world being overpopulated and consuming to much. Therefore, there is a need to low the current population. Anima is saying that one need to keep in mind of the possibility of population declining in the future.  To which I am saying the population IS ALREADY declining.

Now Aristocatt is saying Anima's argument is not only worng but has no ground base of his argument because it can never or not be. Thus any argument to show that the population is decline would not only make Anima's argument no longer wrong but has standing.

This is what I understand to be the just of the issue.

The legality of marriage between couples of the same sex has no effect on the growth of the human population. Zero. None. It's a non-argument.

You going to back that up or that just your statement? . . . HHHH? True kids and fucking do not need marriage. That is why i say do away with the hole fucking pussy shit thing of marriage and just let people be!!! No elitism, no entitlements and no benefits, all are truly and full equal!!

(August 4, 2015 at 9:15 am)Ace Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 7:50 am)Neimenovic Wrote: The legality of marriage between couples of the same sex has no effect on the growth of the human population. Zero. None. It's a non-argument.

You going to back that up or that just your statement? . . . HHHH? True kids and fucking do not need marriage. That is why i say do away with the hole fucking pussy shit thing of marriage and just let people be!!! No elitism, no entitlements and no benefits, all are truly and full equal!!

My claim is a negative one. Yours is positive. Prove that legalizing gay marriage has an effect on the population growth.

If we do away with marriage altogether, yes. But as long as the institution of marriage exists for heterosexual couples, it should also exist for same sex couples or there is no equality to speak of.

(August 4, 2015 at 9:10 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Ace, you are a level of stupid I can barely begin to describe. The extent to which you have missed the point is embarrassing to me as a human.

Nobody has a right to oppress others. You can't take away a right that does not exist. If a person thinks they DO have the right to oppress someone, then that person is a bigot. Being a bigot does not give someone special rights to oppress the rights of others.

Umm you need to send this to robvalue  because that is what he/she wrote.  Hahah . . Don't get mad at me, . .  I am just acknowledging the statement.

That you are embarrassed to be human. . . .well  . . .hmmm. . . I am not sure if professional help will work but I have seen them do wonders, so you might give them a try. Maybe? Hmm?

(August 4, 2015 at 9:20 am)Neimenovic Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 9:15 am)Ace Wrote: You going to back that up or that just your statement?  . . . HHHH?  True kids and fucking do not need marriage. That is why i say do away with the hole fucking pussy shit thing of marriage and just let people be!!! No elitism, no entitlements and no benefits, all are truly and full equal!!

My claim is a negative one. Yours is positive. Prove that legalizing gay marriage has an effect on the population growth.

If we do away with marriage altogether, yes. But as long as the institution of marriage exists for heterosexual couples, it should also exist for same sex couples or there is no equality to speak of.

Hahah . . And that is why I say burn that shit to the ground!!!!