How will we know, when the morning comes, we are still human? - 2D
Don't worry, my friend. If this be the end, then so shall it be.
Don't worry, my friend. If this be the end, then so shall it be.
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How will we know, when the morning comes, we are still human? - 2D
Don't worry, my friend. If this be the end, then so shall it be. RE: Miracle
August 8, 2015 at 5:20 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2015 at 5:30 am by bennyboy.)
Quote:WRONG! Brain cannot produce signals of the sensory organs all by its own. Each sensory organ is crucial to produce signals to brain. Without having proper signals from sensory organs, brain is not capable to originate senses and feelings.Just to clarify, you say I'm wrong about the brain being the main cause of suffering from pain? You understand that a body with no brain experiences no suffering at all? If I chop your hand off and stab the hand, the suffering you feel will be from the original chop, you will experience no suffering from the stabbing of the hand and the hand, without a brain attached, will feel no suffering of its own either. If you have no skin and I hurt your internal organs you will suffer because your brain will tell you what's happening to your internal organs is bad, if you have no internal organs and just skin attached to a brain and I hurt your skin you will suffer because your brain will tell you what is happening is bad. You can see the common denominators in these scenarios? It's the brain and pain receptors. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. Quote:The point here is not whether people were aware or not about burning sensation but it is about their perception of burning sensation. They perceived heart as pain receptor, which Quran has corrected by attracting their attentions towards the skin.Ancient people didn't believe the heart was a pain receptor, they didn't know what pain receptors were. They believed the heart was the central organ responsible for the sensation of pain, now we know the brain is the central organ which picks up signals from pain receptors in skin and other organs. Quote: At this time, neither Aristotle nor Hippocrates believed that the brain had any role to play in pain processing but rather implicated the heart as the central organ for the sensation of pain.Here is a little piece from Wikipedia. What it's saying is they believed the heart is the organ responsible for pain processing, whereas we now know it's the brain, which is what I was saying in my previous reply to you. The quran doesn't mention pain receptors, it doesn't mention the heart not being the central organ responsible for pain, it doesn't mention the brain being responsible, the one and ONLY thing the quran mentions as being responsible for pain is the repeated burning of skin. As I have repeated many times now the only information given by the quran is that burning skin hurts, it's not a scientific discovery. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason.
The only true miracle is that Harris will not allow his mind to work properly.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
To me miracles are just coincidences.
"Don't hate the player, hate the game son."
"POCKET SAND!"
Harris, numerology is a big fail. At best, it shows that the writers of the Quran knew some things, and that they liked to add hidden puzzles to the Quran for people to figure out and be wowed by. At worst, it means you and other "students" of the Quran have way to much free time, and are whipping yourself into a schizophrenic frenzy looking for ricidulous and pointless "meanings" in your religious book.
What it doesn't do is show that something supernatural has occurred, or that an all-powerful Skydaddy had anything to do with its creation. RE: Miracle
August 10, 2015 at 6:10 am
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2015 at 6:11 am by robvalue.)
Calling something a miracle, supernatural, magic, anything like this, is always an argument from ignorance.
It's saying, "I don't find any of the standard explanations for this event, if there are any, satisfactory. I also believe that no explanations will ever be forthcoming at any point in the future that I will find satisfactory. So since I've ruled all those out somehow, that leaves magic/miracles." Or to put it another way, it's setting your belief at "magic" then holding onto it until you are proved wrong. Either way, it's a hopelessly flawed way of going about things. No one ever learns anything or improves understanding this way. Quote:You are in love of making echoes. Using your logic I can prove ancient people didn't know something if they didn't mention it, you haven't found a single written statement from ancient times which say being hit in the groin by wood causes pain. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. |
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