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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 5, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(September 4, 2015 at 10:16 am)Shuffle Wrote: (September 4, 2015 at 1:52 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Wasn't Jesus called the king of the Jews? He said that he was going to toss everyone into the fire who didn't believe in him.
In the afterlife, not in this life. The Quran says to kill IN THIS LIFE.
Muslims say that Jesus was a real prophet. So the muslims kill in this life and Jesus tosses the victims' souls into the lake of fire in the afterlife. It sounds like they are best buddies.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 5, 2015 at 10:58 pm
(September 5, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (September 4, 2015 at 10:16 am)Shuffle Wrote: In the afterlife, not in this life. The Quran says to kill IN THIS LIFE.
Muslims say that Jesus was a real prophet. So the muslims kill in this life and Jesus tosses the victims' souls into the lake of fire in the afterlife. It sounds like they are best buddies.
I would very much rather have christians threaten me with torture after I die than muslims threaten me with torture while I am living.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 6, 2015 at 6:47 am
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(August 30, 2015 at 8:17 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I challenge you to find a single article, video, podcast, speech, or blog that includes these words in a similar form: "I believe that all muslims are responsible for the current Islamic extremist activity." I am really sick of the straw man that is so frequently vomited out by regressives, that I have decided to end it once and for all, at least on AF.
However, if you do find the quote I am looking for, then I will change my mind. It is now your turn to give your straw man a brain, or knock it down.
Thanks! "Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible." - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ja...or-attacks
President Obama is instigating a war on the United States, according to longtime conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly. But the president hasn’t dropped a bomb or fired a shot; rather, he has opened the country to tens of millions of immigrants and refugees from all over the world, including from Muslim countries that hate America.
“It is waging war on America,” Schlafly told WND. “Muslims would like to take over the world and establish their caliphate, and Obama has let so many Muslims in. I don’t think he should let any Muslims in this country. There’s no reason why they should come in.”
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/sc...MtPbE.dpuf
That was easy.
(September 2, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Well, I can show you quote after quote after quote of progressives saying that, "Islamophobes say that ALL muslims are terrorists."
I made this thread to show that there are not "Islamophobes saying that ALL muslims are terrorists" and so far I have been correct. Who are the Islamophobes? Who in particular are you saying doesn't claim "all Muslims are terrorists or most Muslims are terrorists?" Who? You can't honestly be saying no one anywhere implies most, if not all, Muslims are Islamist terrorists or Islamist terrorists sympathizers You can't be honestly saying there are not fear mongers in Western media that strongly imply Muslims in the West are Islamists and sympathizers to Islamist? So obviously that's not what you're saying because that's moronic.
I ask because you're patting yourself on the back for moot points. No one cares about moot points, Shuffle. No one cares. Most liberals don't deny radical Islam is dangerous. At most liberals deny radical Islam is the only form of Islam or deny it is the True Islam. So you're attacking a strawman. I don't think Islam or any religion for that matter is true, so I don't care. If liberals use a liberal interpretation of religious texts, ex: hand waving away the bad bits by saying, "those parts are the words of fallible men and not God" or "I'm a Christian, or Muslim, or whatever in the same way someone can be a Kantian without agreeing with Kant on everything." I just don't care. If the liberal interpretation keeps people from cutting my head off, then good.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 6, 2015 at 1:59 pm
(September 6, 2015 at 6:47 am)Pizza Wrote: (August 30, 2015 at 8:17 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I challenge you to find a single article, video, podcast, speech, or blog that includes these words in a similar form: "I believe that all muslims are responsible for the current Islamic extremist activity." I am really sick of the straw man that is so frequently vomited out by regressives, that I have decided to end it once and for all, at least on AF.
However, if you do find the quote I am looking for, then I will change my mind. It is now your turn to give your straw man a brain, or knock it down.
Thanks! "Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible." - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ja...or-attacks
President Obama is instigating a war on the United States, according to longtime conservative icon Phyllis Schlafly. But the president hasn’t dropped a bomb or fired a shot; rather, he has opened the country to tens of millions of immigrants and refugees from all over the world, including from Muslim countries that hate America.
“It is waging war on America,” Schlafly told WND. “Muslims would like to take over the world and establish their caliphate, and Obama has let so many Muslims in. I don’t think he should let any Muslims in this country. There’s no reason why they should come in.”
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/sc...MtPbE.dpuf
That was easy.
(September 2, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Well, I can show you quote after quote after quote of progressives saying that, "Islamophobes say that ALL muslims are terrorists."
I made this thread to show that there are not "Islamophobes saying that ALL muslims are terrorists" and so far I have been correct. Who are the Islamophobes? Who in particular are you saying doesn't claim "all Muslims are terrorists or most Muslims are terrorists?" Who? You can't honestly be saying no one anywhere implies most, if not all, Muslims are Islamist terrorists or Islamist terrorists sympathizers You can't be honestly saying there are not fear mongers in Western media that strongly imply Muslims in the West are Islamists and sympathizers to Islamist? So obviously that's not what you're saying because that's moronic.
I ask because you're patting yourself on the back for moot points. No one cares about moot points, Shuffle. No one cares. Most liberals don't deny radical Islam is dangerous. At most liberals deny radical Islam is the only form of Islam or deny it is the True Islam. So you're attacking a strawman. I don't think Islam or any religion for that matter is true, so I don't care. If liberals use a liberal interpretation of religious texts, ex: hand waving away the bad bits by saying, "those parts are the words of fallible men and not God" or "I'm a Christian, or Muslim, or whatever in the same way someone can be a Kantian without agreeing with Kant on everything." I just don't care. If the liberal interpretation keeps people from cutting my head off, then good.
None of the quotes even said the word terrorist or terrorism, so I am going to have to rule them out.
Islamophobe is a word progressives/regressives made up to label people that criticize radical Islam. And, yes, I am saying that no one is saying all muslims are terrorists, because I have not been presented with any quotes.
Of course radical Islam is not the only form of Islam, but who is saying the contrary?! That is a moot point, Pizza.
So, I remain with no quotes and little to no hope of those quotes being presented.
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 7, 2015 at 12:27 am
(September 5, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (September 5, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Muslims say that Jesus was a real prophet. So the muslims kill in this life and Jesus tosses the victims' souls into the lake of fire in the afterlife. It sounds like they are best buddies.
I would very much rather have christians threaten me with torture after I die than muslims threaten me with torture while I am living. Why would you live in fear if someone threatens you?
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RE: Regressive Straw Man
September 7, 2015 at 12:48 am
(September 7, 2015 at 12:27 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (September 5, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I would very much rather have christians threaten me with torture after I die than muslims threaten me with torture while I am living. Why would you live in fear if someone threatens you?
When did I say live in fear? Jesus, can everyone stop strawmanning me? It is getting very repetitive.
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