(September 20, 2015 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: Poisoning your children for discipline seems odd.

Jesus would approve.

(September 20, 2015 at 2:23 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 20, 2015 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: Poisoning your children for discipline seems odd.

Jesus would approve.

Lol!

Sorry, that was pretty funny.

(September 20, 2015 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: Poisoning your children for discipline seems odd.

A lot of things previous generations did seem downright arbitrary or insane, really. But they get carried on because tradition is a powerful thing. Part of coming after, I've learned, is refusing to be complicit in the things that make no sense; I don't talk to large swathes of my family anymore because the mental abuse and intimidation that got passed down from parent to child like a fucking heirloom for generations was unacceptable to me, but oh so very normal to them.

We're not obligated to continue bullshit because it's old bullshit. Thus, I'll only ever spank submissives, not children, and if anyone ever tells me that the appropriate response to bad behavior is relentless, hounding pressure such that they can't even think of repeating it in future, I'll tell them to go fuck themselves.

You have to make your own choices in life and still be able to sleep at night, BQ. Being that I already have children, there's absolutely no room in my life for anyone who considers domestic violence or emotional abuse ( I consider the hot sauce/soap thing to be both for sure) to be an acceptable way to raise a child.

There is an age when reason just wont work with children, particularly if the little bugger is wilfully ignoring what you say such as "don't run out into the road" or "don't hold your little brother by his ankles and dangle him over the balcony". I don't remember smacking our eldest but we have locked him in the garden when he was having a particularly violent rage, kicking shins and destroying everything, he'd smashed up all his own stuff and was starting on the rest of the house by the time I came home, my wife was in tears and black and blue.
Fortunately he's calmed now, he's over six foot and into body building so there's not much I could do if he ever kicked off again.

Sure. If you enjoy being resented, and an abuser.

Your kids are not dogs. You can talk to them and explain why they shouldn't do things. 'Because I'll beat the shit out of you' may stop them now, but it won't teach them anything but blind obedience.

(September 20, 2015 at 3:19 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Sure. If you enjoy being resented, and an abuser.

Your kids are not dogs. You can talk to them and explain why they shouldn't do things. 'Because I'll beat the shit out of you' may stop them now, but it won't teach them anything but blind obedience.

I also do not condone dog abuse.

Children cannot always be reasoned with. Try reasoning an almost 3 year old into a nap and out of a box of cookies. I don't think it's possible and it could lead to insanity if you try too hard. People somehow (I honestly don't know how) miss a few important things about children this age. They are very very very easily distracted.

I know you want a cookie my sweet darling (you can imagine this as "awful brat" inside your mind to make yourself feel better) and you will get one soon enough, but what's this? Ooooh that's right it's shiny huh? You like the pretty shiny star sticker, baby? Mommy's giving it to teddy because he's resting quietly. If you lay with teddy and watch over him so he won't be lonely, mommy will give you a shiny star sticker too.

Tahdah

I think it is something that should be used on a very soaring occasion, and only as a last resort.

(September 20, 2015 at 3:31 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I think it is something that should be used on a very soaring occasion, and only as a last resort.

Not trying to pick on you but I'm curious. Do you think there are occasions where it would be acceptable to spank a non-consenting adult who poses no physical threat to you?

(September 20, 2015 at 3:19 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Sure. If you enjoy being resented, and an abuser.

Your kids are not dogs. You can talk to them and explain why they shouldn't do things. 'Because I'll beat the shit out of you' may stop them now, but it won't teach them anything but blind obedience.

There is an age when you can't reason with a child, they are like a non-communicative Mr Bean bumbling through the world wondering vaguely what would happen if they ran off the cliff. There are also children who are bundles of rage lashing out and wilfully doing the opposite of what you say. In the words of batmans butler "some people just want to see the world burn" our Dr said it was just a phase but we seriously considered having him taken into care. Our other two kids have never acted anything like this so we wondered what did we do differently with him? the answer is nothing, it's just him. He was, in his formative years, a bit of a shit every now and then.