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To spank or not to spank?
#21
RE: To spank or not to spank?
I know, and I understand that, but nevertheless I don't think it's acceptable to ever hit a child. There are other ways of dealing with them, and physical abuse creates more problems than it solves.
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#22
RE: To spank or not to spank?
(September 20, 2015 at 3:35 am)Losty Wrote:
(September 20, 2015 at 3:31 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I think it is something that should be used on a very soaring occasion, and only as a last resort.

Not trying to pick on you but I'm curious. Do you think there are occasions where it would be acceptable to spank a non-consenting adult who poses no physical threat to you?

You think small children pose no physical threat. My wife was beaten and kicked by our eldest for a while. When he was in "one of those moods" he would lash out uncontrollably generally starting with things then moving onto people, he has a brother two years his junior who due to proximity bore the brunt of it. I'm making him sound like a monster. Honestly he's fine now but for a (short) while we feared for his brothers safety and my wifes sanity. He was about three I think.



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#23
RE: To spank or not to spank?
Did you consult anyone about it? You say that it's just him, but have you been to a psychologist with him?
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#24
RE: To spank or not to spank?
(September 20, 2015 at 3:35 am)Losty Wrote:
(September 20, 2015 at 3:31 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I think it is something that should be used on a very soaring occasion, and only as a last resort.

Not trying to pick on you but I'm curious. Do you think there are occasions where it would be acceptable to spank a non-consenting adult who poses no physical threat to you?
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#25
RE: To spank or not to spank?
(September 20, 2015 at 3:44 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(September 20, 2015 at 3:35 am)Losty Wrote: Not trying to pick on you but I'm curious. Do you think there are occasions where it would be acceptable to spank a non-consenting adult who poses no physical threat to you?

You think small children pose no physical threat. My wife was beaten and kicked by our eldest for a while. When he was in "one of those moods" he would lash out uncontrollably generally starting with things then moving onto people, he has a brother two years his junior who due to proximity bore the brunt of it. I'm making him sound like a monster. Honestly he's fine now but for a (short) while we feared for his brothers safety and my wifes sanity. He was about three I think.

You're not making him sound like a monster. You're making him sound like someone who doesn't understand the natural consequences of his actions. Which I would say is perfectly normal for a 3 year old. But I am not against giving a 3 year old a bit of mandatory alone time when it's best for his safety and the safety of those around him. I think, however, that spanking him would only serve to further confuse him about whether or not violence is an acceptable response to anger.
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#26
RE: To spank or not to spank?
(September 20, 2015 at 4:02 am)Losty Wrote:
(September 20, 2015 at 3:44 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: You think small children pose no physical threat. My wife was beaten and kicked by our eldest for a while. When he was in "one of those moods" he would lash out uncontrollably generally starting with things then moving onto people, he has a brother two years his junior who due to proximity bore the brunt of it. I'm making him sound like a monster. Honestly he's fine now but for a (short) while we feared for his brothers safety and my wifes sanity. He was about three I think.

You're not making him sound like a monster. You're making him sound like someone who doesn't understand the natural consequences of his actions. Which I would say is perfectly normal for a 3 year old. But I am not against giving a 3 year old a bit of mandatory alone time when it's best for his safety and the safety of those around him. I think, however, that spanking him would only serve to further confuse him about whether or not violence is an acceptable response to anger.

Hence us shoving him in the garden on the basis that there were fewer expensive things he could smash out there. Shutting him in his bedroom resulted in complete destruction of all his stuff. Naughty step, would that work on a tasmanian? I think not and thats what you have to equate him too at that point. There was no reasoning there was just rage.



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#27
RE: To spank or not to spank?
It seems like 10% of the non-smacking parents know about other techniques for better behaviour in children.
The rest don't give a fuck about anybody else and neither will their kids.
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#28
RE: To spank or not to spank?
I'm against physical punishment. I see it as a shortcut in parenting. It only teaches fear.
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#29
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(September 20, 2015 at 2:03 am)Losty Wrote: The hot sauce thing is disturbing to me

Agreed. And the soap. And the fact that Quill's bf is arguing for it. This makes me worry that he is actually an abusive bully.

Also be aware that you may end up giving your child fetishes later on in life if you only pay attention to them by disciplining them.
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#30
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(September 20, 2015 at 7:28 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm against physical punishment. I see it as a shortcut in parenting. It only teaches fear.

Grey areas are how most things operate. My mum, when I was a kid, put my hand on the ring of the cooker (after it had had time to cool a bit) so that it hurt just enough to show a toddler that it was dangerous. I'd come dangerously close to putting my hand on it when it was full on apparently. Was this abuse or teaching of the danger in the simplest way to a creature with no real reasoning skills? I go with the latter. What I think I'm saying is that interactions and events are complex and these lines in the sand are not always helpful.



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