I suspect you are more in need of mental health help than you are willing to accept. You are intransigent, pig-headed, and hostile. You are also misinformed about many things. There is no helping your kind. You'll just have to keep falling until you fall far enough, or die.

(September 20, 2015 at 10:12 am)Orchid Wrote: Do you have anything to contribute to this thread or all you can squeeze out of your frontal behind is such words as "douche"? speaking of SMART, the word "douche" in French (yes it just so happens to be my native language!!!)means SHOWER as in cleaning one's filth out. In other words, the word "douche" MEANS "tool of CLEANLINESS". So thank you!!!!! I AM FLATERED , Though I personally think that JESUS is the Ultimate
Tool of Cleanliness. And for the fake theist that I am, I know that Christ is smiling down on me for Asserting that...

ALSO,  speaking of SMART,  are you familiar with what is known as "process of elimination"? Apparently not. It's actually a scientific process. I used it to determine the true nature of my experiences. So you're awwwwwwaaaay behind. And I am a theist. It will be stupid and retarded for one to read all my posts and think of me any other way. You don't seem to know what the word infiltration means because if you have you would not have used it knowing that I fully disclosed myself on the 1st 2 posts of this thread. This leads me to believe that you must be of around the 4/5th grade education.
Also I would recommend you go and brush your teeth because you mouth smells bad.  Do you know how I know? When one uses such terms as "shitty" to one who didn't not match that in any way and just because they have a different belief system than yours, that only mean one thing and that you need to brush your teeth and take that "douche" you seem to be desperate for. Oh, that will be meee LOL.
My advise is go back to school and stay in it this time....

Hehe. You, sir or madam are a babbling, fucking loon. No one made you misrepresent yourself on this thread; that was your decision. 

I happen to be a college graduate, but one certainly wouldn't need to have more than a fourth or fifth grade education to see that you're dishonest, immature, delusional and prone to fits of rage.
Oh...and that you're full of it.

You obviously want atheists on this forum to give serious consideration to the possibility that Jesus may actually be real. You knew this vision bullshit would have been challenged/dismissed immediately if you'd presented it as a theist, so you presented this dumb-ass vision story as an almost-atheist who's just so sick of this damn Jesus guy.

Atheists were supposed to say "You know, Orchid...the mere fact that a Jesus-hater who's practically an atheist could be having these visions without wanting or even caring to have them, gives me reason to pause and wonder. Is there a possibility that this Christ fella could happen to exist on some level? Hmmm."

You (being the stupidly unrealistic theist that you are) were actually taken aback, when atheists responded as they generally do in response to supernatural claims....offering logical explanations based in reality.
Your stupid narrative was thwarted with rational suggestions and questions. 
You've been exposed, dumb fraudulent bitch. 
Deal with it.

Btw, faketheist is a word that's made up....as a play on the words fake and atheist. Remember your original post, liar?

So what was the point of this whole thread? Was it merely a distraction to get a foot in the door with jebus? Is that it?
They're a deceiving (but creative) bunch, I'll give 'em that.

Have you considered its just a guy with long hair and a beard? It might of just been me like two years go.
My hair was down to my lower back. Turns out with long hair I look more like Neil from The Young Ones rather than Aragorn despite my hopes to the contrary.

Yeah, but did you have 70mm IMAX quality visual delusions, I mean visions, of other people with long hair and a beard like our friend Orchids? He's just too special!

(September 20, 2015 at 5:02 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(September 20, 2015 at 4:52 pm)Orchids Wrote: I can't see the image mh.brewer. Can you try to repost it please. If you think I am a POE, then why are you wasting our time with me?

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Not tech savy (so image didn't work) but chem savy. You know neurochemicals so the formula should be enough.

Not a waste of time to expose a POE, fake, fraud. I'm quite enjoying myself.

And if you think I am a fraud, you're a truly a moron. Good night. You know where the ignore button is.

Orchidée, it's really actually very simple.

There are three possibilities here.

1) You actually DO have visions. They are a result of neurochemicals in your brain.  You have our sympathies.  Go get professional psychiatric help, and best wishes.

2) You actually DO have visions. They're supernatural, and you ARE like Theresa of Avila. (We believe she was in the #1 category, but hey, we aren't in your shoes.)  So. Go join a convent.  They will confirm your visions, house, feed, and clothe you.  Best wishes.

3) You're making it up to get a reaction from a group of ATHEISTS on the internet. You're in desperate need of professional psychiatric help.

Oh, and by the way, some language issues always occur when people from different countries meet on the internet.  In my area, it is not unusual to refer to a person as "haunted".  "Haunted" means that you are visited or beleaguered by a spirit.  "Posessed" means that a spiritual entity has taken control.  I'm quite aware of the semantic difference.  So your attack on my use of the term, and implying that someone with four advanced degrees is uneducated (something which you have thrown at quite a few folks on this forum) was unwarranted.

(September 20, 2015 at 4:43 am)robvalue Wrote: I want to help, but I've become unclear on what you actually want from us.

What exactly is the problem you're having? Is the problem that you've seen Jesus? I know you say you "want out" but I don't exactly know what this means. Sorry if I'm being dense and have missed something.

No you are not being dense. You are being Xtremely nice, helpful and truly caring. And I thank you for it. That's the problem with this God garbage, one cannot just snap their fingers and find themselves completely outside of it and free. It's not that simple.

NOTICE TO ALL TROLLS THAT CRAWL ALL OVER THIS THREAD:


This one is for Rob, the rocket surgeon and others who HONESTLY are willing to help, and not for you. If you are so much better and "higher" (ha, my back orifice!), then it shouldn't be hard for your small brain to look for the ignore botton, hit it and piss off. Either that or go smoke what it is that you usually smoke to get your fix because I am not it. Or am I?!?!? if this forum is in truth NOT, about COWARDILY proceeding to gang up on anybody, that does not share your Pot/vulgar porn infested perspectives.



Rob,
This is my problem:
Just when I decide this is it, the other side comes out and an itch starts where I want to grab the bible. Or the visions pop up and have me think "I want to give it another try.", I "can't quite", etc.

Or for example like what is happening here. All the stupid morons who are attacking me, and making accusations they are too much of retards to substantiate, that does not motivate me to continue on my way out but rather go back and hang on to that crap. I know I did not hallucinate. I never do that. Jesus is the Only One that Ever showed up out of the f ing thin Air!!!!! Those are the outward visions, I had inward one where I seen the silhouette of his upper body, made out of nothing but white brilliant light. There is more. Maybe I should just go back and write that book. I know the Christian community would absolutely love it. One time I was talking to Him while praying in front of the blessed Sacrament, and guess what the f happened. I swear to the Almighty I am not lying. something started to move as if there was some invisible being right around the Blessed Sacrament and a white light formed around it with bunch of little star-light sparks from all colors. It did after I said I wanted to build a website and dedicate it to the Sacred Heart of Jesus!!!! Yep.


Don't ask me to give away the bible, I have many times and I keep on buying new ones.

Thank you Rob!!

Hugs to you

I'm not sure what the problem is.  If you want to read the bible...read the bible.  If you want to "give it another try" give it another try.....whatever "it" is.  If you see or experience things on the periphery of religious belief that's fairly common and not really indicative of some dire problem. Happens to plenty of folks, of every religious perversion. Some buddhists see Buddha, some wiccans see the goddess, and some people see christ....they see christ in the air, in the tufts of fur on a dogs anus, in the swirls of soap drying on a building's s. facing windows.....between the burnt margins on the buttered side of their toast.

You're very welcome

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Maybe talking about it is helpful in itself. I don't know what I can say to help really. All I can say is you can take whatever parts of a religion are helpful to you, without having to throw yourself into it completely. For example, you can find parts of the bible comforting or wise, without having to also believe it's the word of God or whatever. You can see Jesus as being whatever you feel he is, without having to worship him. You're the master of your own destiny. I'm sure that whoever or whatever Jesus is or was, he would want you to be happy.