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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:21 pm
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(September 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 24, 2015 at 7:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I told you that I don't give a shit about "religion." For people to willingly remain a member of such a corrupt organization is a red-flag for me. You were in no position to molest anyone or protect those who did. But those who were in those positions, did.
So what do you suggest me do? Force myself to stop believing something that in my heart I feel is true, only because there are people within the Church who are bad people?
Your participation might appear to some as conveying an imprimatur of approval.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:24 pm
If you see my little Losty please tell her it is time to cum home.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:33 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 8:17 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: See you can't stay mad at me.
I wasn't mad. 
Just saying I thought joking about an innocent man molesting children was in poor taste. But you're right, I can't be mad at you. Blame your doggy avatar for that.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:35 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 8:21 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (September 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So what do you suggest me do? Force myself to stop believing something that in my heart I feel is true, only because there are people within the Church who are bad people?
Your participation might appear to some as conveying an imprimatur of approval.
Well for the record of everyone here in case there are any doubts, I definitely don't "approve" of molesting children. Neither does my family or my Catholic friends.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:36 pm
But you still send them a check ?
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:46 pm
Oh I don't think tithing the church implies tacit approval of the actions of its worst players.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 8:59 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 8:36 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: But you still send them a check ?
Send who a check, exactly? I give money to my Church because I believe in the faith and I believe in the cause. Is everyone who has worked in the Church a good person? No. Do I believe they are working to eliminate the problem? Yes. You guys are acting as though the faith "approves" of having sex with children. It does not. Just because there have been nasty people in the Church Hierarchy who don't follow Church teaching about sexuality or human dignity, and end up doing heinous things like having sex with kids, doesn't mean the Church is forever tainted and inherently evil.
If you want to take that as me "approving" the sexual molestation of kids, then go ahead I guess. I don't know why you or anyone else here would associate with anyone who ya'll thought actually supported such a disgusting act, though.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 9:00 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 8:46 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Oh I don't think tithing the church implies tacit approval of the actions of its worst players.
Thank you, wtw.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Sorry for losing my cool. I like you, Vorlorn.
As you can imagine though, I don't take well to being accused of supporting the rape of children. I should probably leave this thread before I say anything else I regret.
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RE: The Pope - After a Week In 'Murrica
September 24, 2015 at 9:36 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 9:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Sorry for losing my cool. I like you, Vorlorn.
As you can imagine though, I don't take well to being accused of supporting the rape of children.
Or to blasphemy toward the object of your adoration, apparently. That's okay. I'll skirt around it. 
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