But if motion is impossible then you can't even transition through the wormhole.

(September 20, 2015 at 11:04 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: But if motion is impossible then you can't even transition through the wormhole.

You had to suck the fun out of it....

oh well teleportation ftw

I've always thought about what time actually is.I've read somewhere that time is nothing but an illusion.
That time is an illusion created by movement or our memory.Well,imagine seeing a video on youtube and in the video is a single image
of a ball in space,that's it,the whole video is a single image of a ball in space.So how do we determine whether the 
time is fixed for the ball or not?Afterall the ball is not moving ..or is it?
If we place a ball in space and nothing else and if we were to move it,it would be impossible to determine if it is 
moving,correct? And since it is impossible to determine whether it is moving(keep in mind that time is an illusion created
by movement or motion)how will we determine if time is fixed for the object or not? We cannot,right?

This made me think that perhaps time is not an illusion created by motion,perhaps it's not a smooth flowing continuum afterall.
I went online and looked at definitions of time and it was all poopy pants definitions.(Let's all be mature but real here)

So anyway,remember when i used to cling on to the idea that we are contantly teleporting?(They see me clingin',they hatin')
Actually i'm still clinging on to that idea.Anyway,i thought about why i thought that we were teleporting and i thought
about something interesting.I remebered that in 10th grade i learned that the human eye percieve the world in some 30 frames
per second or so.If you look at it from that perspective then it is obviously the reason why i confused continuity with
teleportation.Maybe we are all in a continuous motion but we just percieve the world to be discontinous.
So once again i solved my doubt for myself.

But Alas! I thought about this again!Can you believe this shit?Oh well,anyway,logically thinking it is impossible to get
from point A to point B because there are infinite number of points between them and it would take an object to move at a
speed of inifinity to reach from A to B.Are we moving at a speed of infinity?Well,duh,no!(If i say duh i'm obviously right)

So i decided to go with the assumption that we are infact teleporting.So what does this have to do with time?Well,if you 
actually think about it,it has everything to do with time.Let's go further with the assumption that we are actually
teleporting.Let's assume that it takes time 't' to go from point A to point B.For my purpose i'm going to assign 't' an
infinitely small amount of time.Now it will make sense as to why we percieve our world as a continous world,it is because 
the time gap between each teleportation is so tiny that it seems like we are in continous motion.

Now imagine a fan in full speed.It goes so fast that we percieve it as a circle when in reality it is nothing but a few
leafs of the fan moving really fast.Think of the fan spinning in full speed as continuity.The interval between each discreet movement is so small that 
it appears to be continous.Now,switch off the fan,you will see that it is slowing down.Now the interval between each
discreet movement is slowing down that we now percieve the fan for what it really is,a naked discreet lying bastard.(Obviously)

So anyway i have come up with an actual definition of time and whatever i typed above,well,i don't even know why i typed it.
Straight to the point now,

Imagine 4 points: A,B,C and D.
Assume that it takes time t1 to get from A to B,t1 to get from B to C,t1 to get from C to D.
Time is the sum of all the intervals between each consecutive space jump(teleportation),i.e, t1+t1+t1 = Time.

So how does this tie with the idea that time slows down when the speed of an object increases?
Imagine an object going at 1 point per second,the object will reach D in 4 seconds.Let's speed up our object shall we,
let's imagine that the object is now going at 2 points per second,the object will reach H in 4 seconds(because in the 1st
second the object will cover the points A and B,2nd second C and D,3rd second E and F and finally in the 4th second G and H).

Did you guys notice what happened here? 
When the speed was 1 point per second our object reached D with an overall time of t1+t1+t1(in 4 seconds).
But when the speed was 2 points per second our object reached H with an overall time of t1+t1+t1+t1+t1+t1+t1(in 4 seconds).

Lets assign x=3*t1 and y=7*t1.
It took both objects 4 seconds but incredibly y is greater than x! 
y actually holds more time than x,believe it or not.
This is how when the speed of an object increases time slows down,well time actually doesn't "slow down" per se,it just 
appears so.
It took an object moving at a speed of 1 point per second x time while it took an object moving at 2 points per second 
y time.y holds more time but the same number of seconds(4),giving the impression that y "slowed down".
Simply saying,more distance covered in less seconds equals more time.

[I'm speaking of seconds and time as different things in this context because they aren't the same thing.I doubt what 
we see in our clock is actually "time".Most probably a standardized,simpler version of time for better understanding.. but
definetly not "time".]
(btw x*0=x)

*party* *clinks glasses* Quick! Someone get a towel,i just spilled some of my awesomeness on the floor ):< !

How did I miss all this insane maths fun? I want to play!

I agree, the idea of spending an infinitely short amount of time at each of an infinite number of points is hard to get your head around.

However, I agree that just because we model motion as continuous, it doesn't necessarily mean it is.

(September 27, 2015 at 2:47 am)pool Wrote: *party* *clinks glasses* Quick! Someone get a towel,i just spilled some of my awesomeness on the floor ):< !

If you are teleporting between points then motion is not continuous. If this motion is not continuous, then how can you determine whether it is an infinitesimally small time unit between points or eons between points?

(September 28, 2015 at 1:11 am)IATIA Wrote:

(September 27, 2015 at 2:47 am)pool Wrote: *party* *clinks glasses* Quick! Someone get a towel,i just spilled some of my awesomeness on the floor ):< !

If you are teleporting between points then motion is not continuous.  If this motion is not continuous, then how can you determine whether it is an infinitesimally small time unit between points or eons between points?

Through observation?
We percieve the world in a continious fashion because of the infinitesimally small time between each consecutive teleportation

I'd say we imagine it is continuous but we don't actually observe it being continuous. Our eyes/brains must have a maximum FPS or something, right?

I'm wondering if continuous motion is something that couldn't actually be proven, even if it is true.

(September 30, 2015 at 7:43 am)robvalue Wrote: I'd say we imagine it is continuous but we don't actually observe it being continuous. Our eyes/brains must have a maximum FPS or something, right?

I'm wondering if continuous motion is something that couldn't actually be proven, even if it is true.

I'm pretty sure that that's how it is. How would one show even in principle that something is perfectly continuous and smooth? This would be a statement about arbitrarily small distance scales.

Cool, thanks That's what I thought.

So discrete motion may one day be demonstrated to be true, but probably can't be demonstrated to be false, even if it is.

(September 30, 2015 at 6:19 am)pool Wrote:

(September 28, 2015 at 1:11 am)IATIA Wrote: If you are teleporting between points then motion is not continuous.  If this motion is not continuous, then how can you determine whether it is an infinitesimally small time unit between points or eons between points?

Through observation?
We percieve the world in a continious fashion because of the infinitesimally small time between each consecutive teleportation

You would not be aware during the teleportation, ergo, time would be completely meaningless and could be eons.