(October 17, 2015 at 11:10 am)Blondie Wrote: Intelligent Design does not need an explanation.  Theories have to be explained and accepted.  Even at that, they will never be fact.

I'll bite this troll bait: EVOLUTION IS A FACT. A theory is the highest level an idea can reach and the term is misued so badly it's become diluted., You know what else is a theory? Gravity, I suggest sense theories can never be facts you will be willing to jump off your roof.
FSM forgives you for your trolling and stupidity.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:13 am)IATIA Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: Satanism - when it gets to the point of sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies, it ain't no better than Islam.  Satan don't care what you do as long as you don't believe in God, he's got ya whether you know it or not.

Say what?  To believe in Satan requires a belief in god also.  And where is your source on "sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies".  Catholic priests rape children.  Many an animal was sacrificed to god of the bible.  The bible condones 'baby killing' on numerous occasions.

So, are you saying the god of the bible is Satan?  If not, what is your source for accusing Satan of those atrocities?

Yes I said satanism.  It is a blunt slap in God's face that a Satanist rejects Him.  The God of the Bible is exactly of who He is.  Now Lucifer was the Arch Angel of Worship.  When  Lucifer was kicked out, he then became Satan and a 1/3 of the stars fell with him.  Stars represent the fallen angels who have became Satan's band of demons.  This is all described in Isaiah and Revelation. Now the symbols.  The upside down cross with the broken pieces is the sign of rejection of Jesus. What I don't get is Satanists claim it, but the Apostle Peter was crucified upside down.  The peace sign that was part of the hippie movement in the 1960's is a sign of rebellion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6IUZ87gGDk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_T5EF-uzU


These two websites is where I got it from. 

http://exposingsatanism.org/showthread.p...f-Satanism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLeztJkhi4U

(October 17, 2015 at 11:10 am)Blondie Wrote: the·o·ry
/ˈTHēərē/ noun
1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained "Darwin's theory of evolution". 

Dear lord. 

You looked up the word theory in the COLLOQUIAL sense. When speaking of the word "theory" as something in science, they are referring to SCIENTIFIC theory, which has a different meaning. 

scientific theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.

The chances of evolution being false are so infinitesimally small that they aren't worth considering. 

Oh, and FYI, gravity is only a theory too. If you think the word "theory" makes it false, you are invited to leap out of a five story building and prove science wrong.

Evolution is a fact (actually a body of facts). The theory of evolution is the working model which describes and explains those facts. Theories are built out of facts, observations, inferences etc. A fact will never become a theory, in the same way that a spark plug will never become a car.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:26 am)Evie Wrote: Lets face it, I.D is pathetic. "Irreducibility" can fuck off.

It fails on every level. Evolution can evolve something in a complex way the evolve out the unrequired bit. It can also re-purpose bits of the body, such as fish jawbones forming parts of our inner ear. ID fails totally.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:27 am)Laika Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 5:06 am)Blondie Wrote: I can't speak for other theists. I do grab that concept. You are right about the burden of proof has always and always will fall on the believer. Science says you have to provide evidence so therefore we are programmed to think this way. Proving God exists no believer can provide proof and that is where the concept of faith comes in. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Atheists want proof, but doesn't comprehend what faith is. I have also heard of some atheists praying to God when things go so wrong for them while others know what the Bible says, but choose to reject it. There are others who believe in evolution, while others can't believe that there just maybe might be a more powerful force out there besides humans. There are still others who can't explain their position. There are again others who blame God for something that has hurt them so bad such as a death of their newborn, child, etc so they stop believing. There are others who have been hurt by Christians and walk away. There are others who choose to reject all ideas about any deity or power. I get that as a theist if that is what you want to call me. Just curious. If the account of Noah's flood isn't true, then how is it possible that we have found Noah's Ark split up into three pieces? How about the burning bush? We found our way to that. The Muslims will kill you if you try to find it because it is heavily guarded because they are hiding it from the world to find out that the Biblical accounts may be true after all.

First off, no, there has never been evidence of the Ark discovered. Perhaps you should double check the shit you read online before putting every ounce of faith into it. Every claim ever made about the Ark or the Bush or shit under the Red Sea being found has been debunked almost immediately after the claim is made. 

I comprehend what faith is. However, so many theists (Christians in particular) try to bring their god into the realm of science, where he does not belong. So many will insult atheists and call us fools for not "seeing that he exists", like the evidence is actually out there when it is not. I wouldn't ask for proof if Christians didn't state it as fact. Simple as that.

Ok. If you say so. What at the bottom of the Red Sea?  They have found the chariots that dated back to when the Jewish people escaped the Egyptians from slavery.  They are crushed under the Red Sea where they were destroyed.

Nothing but futile debating creationists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhmsDGanyes

(October 17, 2015 at 11:31 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 11:10 am)Blondie Wrote: Intelligent Design does not need an explanation.  Theories have to be explained and accepted.  Even at that, they will never be fact.

I'll bite this troll bait: EVOLUTION IS A FACT. A theory is the highest level an idea can reach and the term is misued so badly it's become diluted., You know what else is a theory? Gravity, I suggest sense theories can never be facts you will be willing to jump off your roof.
FSM forgives you for your trolling and stupidity.

Yeah you first.  Where is your missing link for macro evolution?  Why are there still monkeys?  Wouldn't all monkeys be extinct since they have no use on earth anymore since their human counter parts are here?    Gravity exist.  Please show me I am at least communicating to a half way intelligent person.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:35 am)Blondie Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 11:13 am)IATIA Wrote: Say what?  To believe in Satan requires a belief in god also.  And where is your source on "sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies".  Catholic priests rape children.  Many an animal was sacrificed to god of the bible.  The bible condones 'baby killing' on numerous occasions.

So, are you saying the god of the bible is Satan?  If not, what is your source for accusing Satan of those atrocities?

Yes I said satanism.  It is a blunt slap in God's face that a Satanist rejects Him.  The God of the Bible is exactly of who He is.  Now Lucifer was the Arch Angel of Worship.  When  Lucifer was kicked out, he then became Satan and a 1/3 of the stars fell with him.  Stars represent the fallen angels who have became Satan's band of demons.  This is all described in Isaiah and Revelation. Now the symbols.  The upside down cross with the broken pieces is the sign of rejection of Jesus. What I don't get is Satanists claim it, but the Apostle Peter was crucified upside down.  The peace sign that was part of the hippie movement in the 1960's is a sign of rebellion.

These two websites is where I got it from. 

http://exposingsatanism.org/showthread.p...f-Satanism

Other than reference to a ridiculously biased and delusional website, you have failed to address any of my comments.

As to the peace sign of rebellion. Hell yeah! Rebellion against war. You have a problem with that?