(October 25, 2015 at 11:13 pm)Exian Wrote: #SellTheBrowns

If they do, will the city of Cleveland throw a hissy fit and sue the NFL to keep the name for the next lame assed expansion team, again?!?

(October 27, 2015 at 5:43 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 25, 2015 at 11:13 pm)Exian Wrote: #SellTheBrowns

If they do, will the city of Cleveland throw a hissy fit and sue the NFL to keep the name for the next lame assed expansion team, again?!?

The real funny story here is that once the Browns left Cleveland to become the Ravens, they sucked at lot less. The expansion Browns just picked up in Cleveland where the old Browns left off.

Seamless transition, that was.

The Lions have fired their offensive coordinator and two offensive line coaches. The only way to describe this season is embarrassing.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/139793...ol-coaches

(October 27, 2015 at 5:33 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 27, 2015 at 4:37 pm)Skeletor Wrote: I hope for Denver's sake that they have an exit strategy WRT Manning, because the fat lady has been warming up for years.

I sure haven't seen one. When I ask around about Osweiler I get a few who think he'll do well, a few who think he'll suck and the vast majority who don't know 'cause we've never seen him take a meaningful snap. I really have to wonder what the front office saw in Manning that made them think it was worth it to bring him back for another year. It's not like he was playing stellar football and got edged out in the playoffs by the eventual champs. Hell, it's not like the fat lady's even warming up anymore. She's half-way through her aria.

I've never actively wished for an injury to a player, especially on my own team, but I'm near to it now. The Oz man is in the last year of his rookie contract. If Manning finishes the season, the only way we find out if he's got game is to sign him to a bigger contract during the off season. There have been too many "practice warriors" who never bring it during the games and Randy Moss types who can ball come Sunday but don't practice worth a shit to convince me that the coaching staff really knows what they've got.

After watching Manning's body completely fail him on the field, I'm much more sanguine about Elway's retirement timing. It would have been far more painful watching him struggle like this that it was to see him gracefully step down as the only QB to retire as a current Superbowl champion.

I still think he had one year left though, and had he been there instead of Griese, they may have cemented their place in history as the first ever to three-peat.

I'd be willing to bet that Matthew Stafford will be in Denver next season.

Or...

You might live to see the not so triumphant return of Jay Cutler.

Stafford I could live with. He would actually be a decent fit for the offense Kubiak wants to run. Cuntler coming back may be enough to make me open a vein!

I think Stafford is more likely. I don't think Cutler actually plays as a starter again after the Bears have finally had enough.

Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, Stafford still has two years left on his contract. I don't think they're going to get rid of the best quarterback they've had in my lifetime. They'd basically be undoing everything they've tried to build in the last 7 years.

(October 27, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, Stafford still has two years left on his contract.  I don't think they're going to get rid of the best quarterback they've had in my lifetime.  They'd basically be undoing everything they've tried to build in the last 7 years.

That would be a big surprise to Lions fans?!? This is the team who pissed away the talent of arguably the greatest running back to ever play the game. Them trading or even cutting Stafford outright wouldn't surprise me one bit.

They'd trade him with two years left. At the draft, to get a second first round pick.

(October 27, 2015 at 8:25 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: They'd trade him with two years left. At the draft, to get a second first round pick.

I need to send a little bird to whisper in Elway's ear.

Manning isn't the answer and never has been for this team. Hell, if da Bears had had a competent QB he wouldn't be sporting that single ring. His offense always put up big stat padding numbers and won lots of regular season games. Not so much in the the post season.