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The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
#31
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
So...

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#32
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
Oh, when did this become the sarcastic clichéd merger thread?
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#33
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
(November 23, 2015 at 2:47 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote:
(November 23, 2015 at 2:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: JFK never actually died. It was a fake fourth sniper on the moon.

Thus proving once and for all that we really did put a man on the moon.

... unless he was... BORN THERE! Panic

Wait, hold your horses there!
Has it ever been conclusively proven that there is a moon? Not saying there isn't, just asking questions...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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#34
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
The maths suggest that it should be there, yes...
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#35
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
(November 24, 2015 at 5:41 am)ignoramus Wrote: The maths suggest that it should be there, yes...

Suggests shmushmests! Math is just a theory, and Godels incompleteness theorem says that maths is fallible.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#36
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
see below
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#37
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
Alex discovers "God of the Gaps!" (I've always wondered what the technical term for that was!) Congrats is in order ...

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#38
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
(November 23, 2015 at 2:46 pm)Bard A Madsen Wrote:
(November 22, 2015 at 6:26 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: There might have been a big cosmological event in the past that made it's way in some of the major religions today, but that certainly is not what started religion. Religion is born out of ignorance and the need for us to feel in control of things. Superstition is a common occurrence in the animal kingdom as demonstrated in the pigeon experiment, that combined with human intellect was bound to lead to religion, irrespective of a big cosmological event.

Religion spreads by adapting and exploiting gaps of knowledge, and it is a common occurrence for one religion to *borrow*  ideas from other religions, so given enough time it's not hard to see how the major religions might share different versions of a common story, that however doesn't do much towards adding credibility to the actual event. Nor will knowing that prevent new religions from popping up in the future.

That is why I am here, trying to say that religion was started by celestial phenomena and its subsequent impact on Man and Earth.  It is clear if one reads enough of the very ancient prayers, they are begging the Sky God to stop killing them.  Superstition of animals?  What pigeon experiment?  This has got to be good !  I think your saying it was just all made up, is that right?  If religious thought was all just spread from a common source then there is going to be a lot of explaining to be done such as the intercourse of all the cultures of the globe and yet their stories are distinct from each other in the methodology and yet their content the same more or less.

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And no, I am not saying it is all made up but rather religion is an amalgamation of many explanations-out-of-ignorance originating from many different sources for many different events, which isn't limited to only cosmological event, let alone a single event. And the pigeon experiment shows how the basis for religion and superstitious thinking is within our very nature and can be seen as an artefact of evolution itself.
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#39
RE: The Sky God Was Not A Delusion
(November 24, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: And no, I am not saying it is all made up but rather religion is an amalgamation of many explanations-out-of-ignorance originating from many different sources for many different events, which isn't limited to only cosmological event, let alone a single event. And the pigeon experiment shows how the basis for religion and superstitious thinking is within our very nature and can be seen as an artefact of evolution itself.

So, your saying the sympathetic magic is the root of religion and not the impetus that brought on the response?   Reminds me of a joke : Three little boys are sitting on the curb and a genii appears and asks each kid what they want for a wish.  The 1st boy says "I want to be gold all over."  The genii asks why do you want to be gold all over?  And he replys, "because if I were gold I'd own that gold Cadillac right there.  The 2nd boy says he wants to be silver because he would own the silver Lincoln on the other side of the kids.  The 3rd one says "I want to be hairy all over."  And the genii asks why.  He responds " Because my sister has a little patch down here and she owns both of those cars!"  So, the John is left out of the game, eh?
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