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Intelligent Design
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As Matt D often says, it's like standing in a forest made of watches, beneath a sky made of watches, then picking up one watch and saying "aha - this watch was designed for a purpose".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 RE: Intelligent Design
January 4, 2016 at 8:22 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2016 at 8:24 am by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
(January 4, 2016 at 7:36 am)Rhythm Wrote:(January 3, 2016 at 3:01 am)pool Wrote: It was a response to Rhythm because he thought since design comprises everything design can be anything and thus confusing that there is no difference between design and, say, apple.I don't think that, numbskull, lol I was simply wondering, in a universe where ID is true, how you could tell. Many of us asked this question. In a world where ID is true, then an apple -would be- designed. Okay, I get it now. The problem with my usage of design is that it can be interpreted as however I like. Right? Because I can look at an apple and say that it is designed because of the obvious constraints imposed on it. But I already said before that there is an obvious difference between a design and a design achieved from random events or natural causes. How about this: Fixed constraints intelligently imposed on a system implies a design. So consider a rock. What makes a rock you find on the ground that is the identical to a rock molded by a human in a lab any different? After all the rock you find on the ground will have the exact same constraints as that of the rock you molded in the lab right? The main difference is that the rock made in the lab had it's constraints imposed onto itself by an intelligent being whereas the rock in the road had it's constraints imposed onto it by natural causes or random events. Another difference is that the rock made in the lab will have it's constraints fixed whereas the rock in the ground got it's constraints(like shape, size etc) the way it is through lots of natural causes and is ever changing. Main points: * Design implies intelligent action. * Resemblance of a design due to natural causes is not a design because of its fluctuating constraints. Like take hydrogen for example, it's atomic number, protons and other constraints are fixed. Exactly like the constraints on the rock made in a lab are fixed. If the constraints on the rock are altered by another intelligent being then it becomes another design, but if the constraints are altered by natural causes or random events then it is no longer a design. So ask yourself this, Has the constraints of something like an element like Hydrogen changed in the history of earth or even our universe? No? Well then we know it's constraints are fixed. If it is fixed then it is imposed. (Like assigning an integer variable in a program the value 5. It is imposed.) If it is imposed there was an intelligent being responsible. If there was an intelligent being responsible, then it is a design. Do I win something already? Or am I still not making sense? 
The problem with your use of the word design is that you think it's ok to make up your own definition for it, dipshit.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42) Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com  (January 4, 2016 at 8:22 am)pool Wrote: So ask yourself this, How do you get from an objects constraints being imposed, to that imposition being the fault of an intelligent being? I sneezed this morning, therefore, I have AIDS. Utter Cuntum, all of it. (January 4, 2016 at 9:17 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: The problem with your use of the word design is that you think it's ok to make up your own definition for it, dipshit. A guy walks into a sperm donor bank wearing a ski mask and holding a gun. He goes up to the nurse and demands her to open the sperm bank vault. She says "But sir, its just a sperm bank!", "I don't care, open it now!!!" he replies. So she opens the door to the vault and inside are all the sperm samples. The guy says "Take one of those sperm samples and drink it!", she looks at him "BUT, they are sperm samples???" , "DO IT!". So the nurse sucks it back. "That one there, drink that one as well.", so the nurse drinks that one as well. Finally after 4 samples the man takes off his ski mask and says, "See honey - its not that hard." (January 4, 2016 at 9:48 am)pool Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 9:17 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: The problem with your use of the word design is that you think it's ok to make up your own definition for it, dipshit. More cuntum, this time in the guise of a monumentally shit joke. (January 4, 2016 at 9:51 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 9:48 am)pool Wrote: A guy walks into a sperm donor bank wearing a ski mask and holding a gun. He goes up to the nurse and demands her to open the sperm bank vault. She says "But sir, its just a sperm bank!", "I don't care, open it now!!!" he replies. So she opens the door to the vault and inside are all the sperm samples. The guy says "Take one of those sperm samples and drink it!", she looks at him "BUT, they are sperm samples???" , "DO IT!". So the nurse sucks it back. "That one there, drink that one as well.", so the nurse drinks that one as well. Finally after 4 samples the man takes off his ski mask and says, "See honey - its not that hard." How dare you. It's a damn good joke!  (January 4, 2016 at 7:36 am)Rhythm Wrote: If a rock is designed, and an apple is designed, and a symphony is designed.....then the word "design" is useless. But surely the word "design" is itself designed. Wait, is this an example of built in obsolescence? Pretty bad when your creator god resorts to this sort of thing. (January 4, 2016 at 9:57 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 9:52 am)pool Wrote: How dare you. It's a damn good joke! How about this: Wife : "I dreamt they were auctioning off dicks. The big ones went for ten dollars and the thick ones went for twenty dollars. "Husband : "How about the ones like mine? "Wife : "Those they gave away. "Husband : "I had a dream too...I dreamt they were auctioning off cunts. The pretty ones went for a thousand dollars, and the little tight ones went for two thousand. "Wife : "And how much for the ones like mine? "Husband : "That's where they held the auction." |
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