They do not seem to feel what they are singing.

I am watching this award show on tv right now, have no idea what award show it is, but there is this young guy singing about pain and loss, but he's smiling while he sings. He is not making me believe that he is feeling what he is singing.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:31 pm)Kitan Wrote: They do not seem to feel what they are singing.

I am watching this award show on tv right now,

Ah, I believe I found your mistake. Corporate sponsored nonsense is not "musicians today". I've long given up on TV

You only just noticed this?

(January 6, 2016 at 10:31 pm)Kitan Wrote: They do not seem to feel what they are singing.

I am watching this award show on tv right now, have no idea what award show it is, but there is this young guy singing about pain and loss, but he's smiling while he sings.  He is not making me believe that he is feeling what he is singing.

I had a theory about this.

I think it was easier to be cool and mysterious in the days when rock stars were a blurry image on a screen and their lives weren't so transparent.

These days rock stars are on HD television, they're put on reality TV shows, plus pain and loss has been over marketed and is therefore now mocked since everyone stopped listening to emo music.

Or maybe you're just getting old and bitter and I'm agreeing with you about this topic because I'm old and bitter and the new music sounds like shit to me compared to the old stuff.

To be fair, the music industry has always been fraudulent in one way or another, whether it was black musicians singing like white people so they could actually make some money or white people playing black music so they could get filthy rich.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:45 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: To be fair, the music industry has always been fraudulent in one way or another, whether it was black musicians singing like white people so they could actually make some money or white people playing black music so they could get filthy rich.

I don't think black people or white people singing like each other is fraudulent, or using each others styles as an influence. 

Led Zepplin though, their case might be considered to be fraudulent, that level of copying.  One thing I can say for them is that I think they made better songs than all the guys they were ripping off though.

As fake as the Partridge Family ?

(January 6, 2016 at 11:08 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(January 6, 2016 at 10:45 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: To be fair, the music industry has always been fraudulent in one way or another, whether it was black musicians singing like white people so they could actually make some money or white people playing black music so they could get filthy rich.

I don't think black people or white people singing like each other is fraudulent, or using each others styles as an influence. 

Led Zepplin though, their case might be considered to be fraudulent, that level of copying.  One thing I can say for them is that I think they made better songs than all the guys they were ripping off though.

I was referring more specifically to the hijacking of rock and roll by white record producers and musicians that was carried out during the 40's and 50's, and it's not the emulation or merging of styles that annoys me, it's that no one knows the name Sister Rosetta Tharp while everyone knows the name Elvis Presley. Just pisses me off that credit isn't given where it's due, that the pioneers who struggled so much get so little recognition. And as for black musicians singing like white people, I was again referring to the mid 20th century, where yes, many black artists disguised their voices so there was a chance that white people would buy the records, I'm not holding it against the artists obviously, they were trying to earn a living, but it's a compromise that annoys me.

Seems pretty genuine to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7OQbAht5zE

Seeing him for the 2nd time live near the end of this month.

Good thing I don't listen to that kind of commercial music. I only like Trance, so I'm never dissapointed. Classic Trance, once you get used to it, is all the music you need.