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Intelligent Design
RE: Intelligent Design
Believe all of them, yes.

It's funny on Eastenders, you have some religious characters on it, but when someone actually says "my baby is the son of God" they all think she is crazy. I kind of read their reaction as, "This is just stuff we believe, it's not stuff that really happens!"
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 1:12 pm)AAA Wrote: How so? a 3 dimensional being claiming to be a part of a higher being doesn't sound familiar?

Then how can you know it's even there?
For like the 23087502984029th time, the higher dimensional stuff was just a thought. I said in the very first time I mentioned that it could not be proven, it wasn't scientific, and NOT to reply telling me that I have to prove it, because I wasn't asserting it to be true. It is just a thought.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 1:22 pm)pool the great Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 1:12 pm)AAA Wrote: How so? a 3 dimensional being claiming to be a part of a higher being doesn't sound familiar?
How do you know I'm not a being from a higher dimension?
Burden of proof.
I'm supposed to prove my claim.

This 3 dimensional being you talk about, has it proven it's claim, it so, how?

I'm not asserting it to be true, it was just a thought. Look back at where I first talked about dimensions where I told people not to respond asking me to prove it, and it was just a thought.
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RE: Intelligent Design
I wasn't telling you that you have to prove it. I was aking how you might even suspect it in the first place. Please deactivate your martyr chip. But it's fine, if you don't consider it something worth defending or pursuing, I can do that too.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 1:25 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 12:52 pm)AAA Wrote: That's exactly how you compare competing hypothesis. We know that a designer could explain the specified sequence. We don't know that mutation could explain it. You can't demonstrate either in a lab because they both rely on a special, non-repeatable event. Laboratory science can't study historical events

Then in that case nobody has any reliable historical records.

All historical field studies defer to lab analysis for authenticity testing and date validation (got that from the school of James Michener Smile ).

Maybe for things like carbon dating, but the subject of history has its own method of comparing the validity of primary sources for descriptions about the time period. I'm no expert on history, but the lab can't replicate events that are defined as unique and unrepeatable events.
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RE: Intelligent Design
Still not sure what 'higher' dimension is supposed to mean.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I wasn't telling you that you have to prove it. I was aking how you might even suspect it in the first place. Please deactivate your martyr chip. But it's fine, if you don't consider it something worth defending or pursuing, I can do that too.

I first thought of it when I watched a documentary on UFOs. There are alleged claims (no I can't prove these to be true) of military fighter jets tracking UFOs, and having them on radar, and then the UFOs disappearing off of the radar, indicating that it was no longer there. Also, many "supernatural phenomena" could be explained by this, such as claims of ghostly figures appearing in our 3D realm, then disappearing. Obviously I know that almost all UFOs and supernatural claims have other explanations, but for the remaining ones, I just thought that a higher dimension could explain how they could allegedly enter our reality and leave it that quickly. I then thought that it could maybe apply to God as well. Capable of being literally right next to you just outside of our dimension, similar to the way a 3D creature (us) could be infinitely close to a 2D realm, and observe 2D creatures without them detecting us. This is JUST A THOUGHT. 

Prediction: People are going to rip this comment apart demanding proof.
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RE: Intelligent Design
Human. 4D.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm)Beccs Wrote:
(January 14, 2016 at 1:12 pm)AAA Wrote: How so? a 3 dimensional being claiming to be a part of a higher being doesn't sound familiar?

Which one?

Hundreds, if not thousands of people have claimed to be the son or daughter or direct incarnation of various gods.  Should we believe them all on the merits of their claims?

No, you shouldn't believe all of them. But at some point the high number of people claiming something does become significant. If everyone on earth except you claimed to have seen bigfoot, would you believe it or still need to see it for yourself?
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RE: Intelligent Design
(January 14, 2016 at 3:07 pm)AAA Wrote: But at some point the high number of people claiming something does become significant.

Wrong.
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