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What's up with creationism?
#61
RE: What's up with creationism?
Why can't I ever get an answer to that question?
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#62
RE: What's up with creationism?
Thread title, wishful thinking.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#63
RE: What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 5:03 pm)Vic Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ^See? This is why I have to keep repeating the stuff about learning evolution is Catholic school, and the fact that the daddy of evolution was a Catholic priest. Because of ignorant, incorrect comments like these.

*big bang, you mean?

Yeah, wrote that in a hurry as I was running out the door. Which also explains the typos lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#64
RE: What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ^See? This is why I have to keep repeating the stuff about learning evolution is Catholic school, and the fact that the daddy of evolution was a Catholic priest. Because of ignorant, incorrect comments like these.

Why is that an ignorant comment? Again I ask you what is the creation story an allegory for?

Because, you're claiming that Catholics are required to believe in the literal interpretation of the story of Genesis. Which is a 100% completely false statement. Most Catholics believe the story in Genesis is allegory/symbolism for God being behind all of creation, and for human beings to have free will and have the ability/intelligence to choose between good and evil.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#65
RE: What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 5:30 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Why can't I ever get an answer to that question?

Because I wasn't home. Keep your panties on.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#66
RE: What's up with creationism?
No - take 'em off and jiggle about the place a bit.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#67
What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 9:27 pm)Stimbo Wrote: No - take 'em off and jiggle about the place a bit.

LMAO
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#68
RE: What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 9:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Why is that an ignorant comment? Again I ask you what is the creation story an allegory for?

Because, you're claiming that Catholics are required to believe in the literal interpretation of the story of Genesis. Which is a 100% completely false statement. Most Catholics believe the story in Genesis is allegory/symbolism for God being behind all of creation, and for human beings to have free will and have the ability/intelligence to choose between good and evil.

Hi CL. Can you tell me where you (or other catholics) draw the between when to take it (the bible) literal and when to consider them guiding stories? Or is this on a person to person and biblical case by case basis?

Are there parts that always need to be taken literal as far as catholics are concerned?

Thanks
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#69
RE: What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 9:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 9:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Because, you're claiming that Catholics are required to believe in the literal interpretation of the story of Genesis. Which is a 100% completely false statement. Most Catholics believe the story in Genesis is allegory/symbolism for God being behind all of creation, and for human beings to have free will and have the ability/intelligence to choose between good and evil.

Hi CL. Can you tell me where you (or other catholics) draw the between when to take it (the bible) literal and when to consider them guiding stories? Or is this on a person to person and biblical case by case basis?

Are there parts that always need to be taken literal as far as catholics are concerned?

Thanks

Hi Mh, all the stories in the Old Testament may be taken figuratively. So long as a Catholic adheres to Church doctrine on faith and morals, he/she does not need to believe that Eve ate an apple, or that Noah built an ark, or that Moses separated the sea, etc, etc. Personally, I don't believe any of it is literal.   

Obviously, we do need to believe in the New Testament story of Jesus. That he was conceived through the Holy Spirit, that he performed miracles, died for us, and rose again, etc. All that is in official Church doctrine and is a fundamental part of Catholic belief.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#70
What's up with creationism?
(January 16, 2016 at 10:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 16, 2016 at 9:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Hi CL. Can you tell me where you (or other catholics) draw the between when to take it (the bible) literal and when to consider them guiding stories? Or is this on a person to person and biblical case by case basis?

Are there parts that always need to be taken literal as far as catholics are concerned?

Thanks

Hi Mh, all the stories in the Old Testament may be taken figuratively. So long as a Catholic adheres to Church doctrine on faith and morals, he/she does not need to believe that Eve ate an apple, or that Noah built an ark, or that Moses separated the sea, etc, etc. Personally, I don't believe any of it is literal.   

Obviously, we do need to believe in the New Testament story of Jesus. That he was conceived through the Holy Spirit, that he performed miracles, died for us, and rose again, etc. All that is in official Church doctrine and is a fundamental part of Catholic belief.

CL...another question for you....out of pure ignorance on my part: can someone be a follower of St Thomas Aquinas but not be considered a Catholic? Or a Christian?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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