(January 17, 2016 at 3:16 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:07 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: No, it's because women can't and won't generally attack a man because he is wearing what he thinks is comfortable. When was the last time you heard of a woman literally raping a man. It's kind of impossible

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Fairly recently, actually.

I can't find a link to it.

And, frankly, if a guy is going to rape someone it generally doesn't matter what she's wearing.

I have read of multiple cases where pos rapists have broken into a home and raped 80 + year old women.

I'm pretty damned sure they weren't dressed "provocatively"

Definitely dent say that the criteria I posted where in any way exclusively needed for one to get raped. Say thee is a predator, and two women. One is a scantily dressed woman in a compromising situation, while the other is a modest woman with self respect. Firstly, the two probably wouldn't even be found in the same place, alone negating possibility for rape. Secondly who is going to be targeted? One who isn't showing off her body in next to nothing like an invitation to party, or the other who isn't there, or is dressed in a respectful manner?

If I wore a clown outfit all the time people might assume I was a clown.

Similarly, if a woman wears a where's outfit, then it is safe to say that some(not me) may consider them a whore.

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(January 17, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:17 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: No. A man cannot have intercourse without arousal. It just doesn't work that way. Sexist to men? Now I have heard it all. Next your gonna say I'm not being politically correct, as if that has any significance.

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You are an idiot.

So can you have sex if you aren't aroused?

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(January 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Heat Wrote: Nobody said this. You said it.

"Men aren't really at risk of getting raped by a woman because his Ass cheek or ball is exposed." -pops

Implying that women are at risk of getting raped if their ass cheek is exposed.

Exactly what he was saying.

Oh, I missed that.

To be fair anyone is at the risk of getting raped.

However, I disagree that just because a woman's ass cheek is exposed it justifies them getting raped, or something of that nature. Possibly makes it more likely by a very small percentage, but no one deserves rape, no matter what.


Are they at the risk? Yes, just like anyone else.

(January 17, 2016 at 3:27 pm)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: "Men aren't really at risk of getting raped by a woman because his Ass cheek or ball is exposed." -pops

Implying that women are at risk of getting raped if their ass cheek is exposed.

Exactly what he was saying.

Oh, I missed that.

To be fair anyone is at the risk of getting raped.

However, I disagree that just because a woman's ass cheek is exposed it justifies them getting raped, or something of that nature. Possibly makes it more likely by a very small percentage, but no one deserves rape, no matter what.


Are they at the risk? Yes, just like anyone else.

I don't know if he was justifying rape but what he was doing is saying that men can't control themselves.

(January 17, 2016 at 3:17 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Vic Wrote: That's sexist to men. Men are not horny 24/7 and don't want to have sex with every single woman they meet. It is of course possible for a woman to rape a man and there have been a couple louder cases, along with many that probably went unreported. This is bullshit you're spewing.

No. A man cannot have intercourse without arousal. It just doesn't work that way. Sexist to men? Now I have heard it all. Next your gonna say I'm not being politically correct, as if that has any significance.

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Mate, I get a woody if the wind blows the wrong way. Damned thing's on a hair trigger. Arousal rarely plays into the equation.

(January 17, 2016 at 2:57 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:36 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: What!?

Men aren't really at risk of getting raped by a woman because his Ass cheek or ball is exposed.

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Neither are most women.

But going by what you're saying it comes down to some men not being able to control themselves and women should dress to not tempt them.

And, holy shit, is my typing really that bad when I post from my phone?

Yep. We are getting dangerously close to radical Islam type thinking where women have to wear burkas lest they temp the men.

(January 17, 2016 at 3:08 pm)Heat Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Think about it this way. Do you ever see gothic people walking around in strange, black clothing, some crazy colored hair, black lipstick, scary face make up with tons of white foundation and thick black eye liner? (think Marilyn Manson type look a likes) It was much more popular in the 90's but still happens sometimes.   

Anyway... obviously, they stand out. 

But are they dressing like that specifically to get starred at by other people? I'm sure some of them do. But I'm sure there are others who just dress like that because that is how they express themselves and it makes them feel interesting and edgy. In other words, they look like that because they like that style. Not because they want to be some sort of object of entertainment for others to gawk at. 

It's the same concept with some women and sexy clothing. Sure, some dress like that to play head games and get starred at, but perhaps others dress like that because it's just their style and they like the way it makes them feel... no different from the goths in my above example. (and another point that was briefly brought up... maybe they are wearing short shorts and a tank top because it's hot out lol) 

The wrong thing is to automatically assume the former and feel as though you are entitled to behave rudely by staring... whether someone is dressed in goth, sexy clothes, or any other type of outfit that stands out.

It's completely different when talking about "dressing sexy" and "dressing different".

For the simple fact that the term "Sexy" comes from what is defined as attractive by others, even if choosing what you personally find to be attractive it's all relative to what society has deemed it so. No one's going out in all black with makeup and stuff, goth and saying they are "Sexy" simply because they like the outfit. It relies entirely on other people, whereas in your comparison, being "goth" doesn't.


Would it make it okay for people to go around naked because that's simply how they want to express themselves?

Do people go to nudist beaches to express themselves? No, they go there to stray away from what they know is true of society; if you were to go nude in public it would get reactions, and lots of attention, and by doing so knowing that factor you are then seeking attention. That's why they have to go to a specific place, where the norm. is being nude, in order to feel as though they are normal. Therefore if a girl wears skimpy clothes in public, she should know she will get attention that's possibly unwanted, and by doing so is seeking attention because that is not the social norm. If it's so big of a deal to give yourself confidence then just do it in your own house, it defeats the purpose of "public" to say it's nothing to do with others.

I don't see how expressing yourself with "sexy" clothing is different from expressing yourself with any other type of clothing. You're being a bit biased, perhaps because you personally don't like having to deal with the temptation of gawking. 

As for going around naked, if they are in a nudist community, I don't see a problem with it at all (otherwise it would be a crime). If you look into nudist communities, it's mostly about the hippie, liberating lifestyle than it is about sex and tempting each other.

(January 17, 2016 at 3:07 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: When was the last time you heard of a woman literally raping a man. It's kind of impossible

That's just ignorant.

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(January 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Iroscato Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 3:17 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: No. A man cannot have intercourse without arousal. It just doesn't work that way. Sexist to men? Now I have heard it all. Next your gonna say I'm not being politically correct, as if that has any significance.

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Mate, I get a woody if the wind blows the wrong way. Damned thing's on a hair trigger. Arousal rarely plays into the equation.

Yeah, I get that.

Think from the other perspective though. In some cases women are forcibly raped. This is a horrific terrifying experience surely.

Now, being a man, if you where literally terrified and utterly distraught would you be able to get an erection?

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Holy smokes, this thread just went from very bad, to worse....

I'm glad I'm married to a man who doesn't have these types of sentiments. Good lord.